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Best Quote of the Whole Afghan Campaign. We Should Have Done MORE of It.

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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
….And then one remembers the Abu graib detention centre incident and no longer finds such comments palatable
Kumbayakid · 61-69, M
@Picklebobble2 not that either is right, but do you really see a moral equivalence between torturing a known terrorist and killing a woman for not wearing a burka?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Picklebobble2

Maybe instead we should have paraded them naked down the streets of Kabul and other villages in Afghanistan with signs around them saying, "I've whipped women," "I've raped women," "I've stoned women."

I don't support torture, like water-boarding and electric shocks.

But killing THAT enemy in the field of battle? The more the better.

The Taliban are no better than the Nazis. To HELL with them.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@beckyromero No argument here. But if you’re going to go to war, at least take it seriously, route out those responsible and put them before a jury of their peers and do it properly.

If the rule of law is what you think you’re doing there.

Because right now I’m looking back through the history of this adventure and there’s not a whole lot to show for the efforts of those who fought and died with a flag on their shoulder
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Kumbayakid the second you invade a sovereign nation uninvited you have lost any ‘moral’ argument.

The second you invaded Iraq instead of Iran you lost all moral argument.

The second you invaded Afghanistan and not Saudi Arabia you lost any moral argument
Kumbayakid · 61-69, M
@Picklebobble2 you seem a bit confused about the distinction between war, where one’s adversaries are enemy combatants, and you’re shooting at each other, and a criminal tribunal.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Picklebobble2
route out those responsible and put them before a jury of their peers and do it properly.

I agree (not of their peers though; the Taliban wouldn't convict any Taliban).

Give them a fair trial... and then hang 'em like we did at Nuremberg.

We botched it. No doubt about it. Because we tried to win a war against terrorists and rebuild a nation ravaged by years of war and oppression cheaply.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Picklebobble2
the second you invade a sovereign nation uninvited you have lost any ‘moral’ argument.

9/11. They harbored and aided the terrorist organization which attacked us.

Casus belli.

Plain and simple.
Slade · 56-60, M
@beckyromero I ❤ waterboarding!
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Slade

Doesn't work. They'll just tell you what they think you want to hear.
Slade · 56-60, M
@beckyromero True, but it makes for a humdinger of a time during a Hootenanny!
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@beckyromero Again, no argument here. But you didn’t do that did you.
This became an effort to protect American business interests, that’s why every ally slowly withdrew its support.

And as someone else pointed out on here yesterday, you’ve had twenty years to pull out, and now people who have been advised to get out for the last twenty years are worried about the repercussions after the troops leave.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Slade

No, I'd rather solve two problems at once. Surely you know what global warming is doing to the plight of starving polar bears?

Instead of Gitmo, they should have given captured al-Qaeda terrorists a tent, a coat, a fishing pole and put them on the polar ice sheet.

Slade · 56-60, M
@beckyromero The bears are hardly starving and poisoning them with syphilitic dirtheads will kill off the entire species
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Kumbayakid Nothing to do with morals it’s to do with the rule of law.
I don’t like sharia law anymore than I like other religious piety controlled nations.
But if that’s the aim of the game then at least be honest about that being the reason for being there !
You might find the people you’re ‘protecting’ might actually stand beside you as you fight !