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Strange Deaths

When I was a kid, a lot of people we knew were related to, died, or, most often, committed suicide. When I asked what seemed to me to be normal, or at least usual, questions, my mother would quickly become very angry and confront me with counter questions, such as, "WHY DO YOU ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?" This intimidated me into silence but didn't stop me from wondering about it, especially if the deceased person was someone I really cared about and missed in my life.

It seemed strange to me that we had so many suicides in my family and in my world. One of the saddest, at least for me, was my great-aunt Becky. She killed herself by taking a deliberate overdose of sleeping pills. My mother said Becky had been diagnosed with cancer and feared being a dependent invalid. But later I found out she hadn't actually been diagnosed with cancer but her doctor suspected she might have cancer and so sent her to a lab to be tested for it. She took the test but then without waiting for the results, she went home and killed herself. She had been in trouble with the Communist Party over her conversion to Maoist beliefs; the CP expelled her.

There were other relatives who died by suicide. My cousin Joe committed suicide by deliberately stepping in front of a street car. I asked my mother why he did it, and she said he was a Russian immigrant who had never adjusted to living in the USA. I asked her how long he'd been in the USA and she answered, "28 years." Didn't sound likely to me.

There were many others. Suicides. And also many unusual or unlikely deaths in our social world. Our dentist, a family friend, went on a fishing trip in the mountains and died of a heart attack while fishing. It was the first fishing trip he'd gone on in 30 years. My mother refused to answer any of my questions (like which "mountains" he'd gone to or why he suddenly took a fishing trip after a 30 year hiatus). I think it was because of his profession and how that related to the CP. Dentists are significant people in any secret group.

I have a lot of questionable death stories. My mother would become enraged if I asked any questions about any of these people. No one ever mentioned them again after they died.
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cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
I wonder if they were in so deep with the party that they felt there was no other way out….or if some of the suicides were not actually suicides but someone wanted them silenced forever if they’d been witnesses to something that they didn’t want revealed.
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
@cherokeepatti In other words, do I think some of these deaths could have been murders disguised to appear to be suicides?

While of course that is certainly possible, it's not my main theory for reasons too complicated and numerous to list or describe here. I do know that in the case of one lady, she was ordered to commit suicide by Moscow and when she resisted the idea, 2 CP members whom she knew (my mother was one of them) came to see her and told her what to expect if she did not obey the order. She killed herself that night. She knew too much about at least 2 people and they were famous people at that and it was believed she would soon be called before HUAC to testify. If she'd told the truth, it would've made shocking headlines. Anything else could've landed her in prison and she had 2 young children. She felt her death would be easier on them then living with her locked away and in disgrace.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@greenmountaingal backed in a corner then. I think they must be doing this quite a bit to people, set them up to do things that they can later blackmail them for in case they reveal crimes and secrets…..such a nasty way to control people.
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
@cherokeepatti one man I knew had 2 sons who both committed suicide leaving letters blaming it on him and his supposedly poor parenting. He seemed proud of his sons when he talked about them and other people seemed to respect him and his sons when the subject was discussed. A lot of suicides, and a lot of strange reactions.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@greenmountaingal they force the suicides by blackmailing them if they testify or are a threat to the party. That’s pretty damn close to murder in my book.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@cherokeepatti

This is a classic control method ... make sure that there are no innocent witnesses.

Look how long Jeff Epstein was able to keep the lid on his Lolita Express.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Heartlander Exactly and it’s not the only such operation to blackmail people. This is why the world is in such bad shape now. They’ve done it to politicians, judges, CEOs, entertainment people, media people, and other prominent people in the world that they want to control. There is something I’ve heard about recently in Canada that would make Epstein’s Island pale in comparison.
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
@cherokeepatti I went on a website where lawyers answer legal questions and described some of the suicides I knew about. I asked if this was, legally speaking, murder and they said it was definitely murder in all 50 states of the USA.
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
Perhaps I should add that the woman who committed suicide would have been kidnapped and then tortured for days before being killed if she had not given in and killed herself.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@greenmountaingal I would count that as a murder then.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@greenmountaingal it’s f*cking evil
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@greenmountaingal

It's worth remembering that US U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers carried cyanide tablets to be used at his discretion.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Heartlander I’ve read that cabal members carry those too.