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Infrastructure...upgrade our RRs!

These images are from a major Northeast commuter rail system, where trains run daily.
Ballast gone, spikes coming up and loose.
Does not say much for America’s rail network.
Does not say much for our country’s touted infrastructure.
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Northwest · M
Looks like you're in luck. Money is allocated in the infrastructure bill, for repairing the existing rail infrastructure. $80B worth.

Hundreds of $Bs is also allocated for the development of MagLev trains, something that's been operational in China since 2004.

Alas, the infrastructure bill is held hostage by Mitch McConnell. I don't know which state you hail from, but you should write your Congressional delegation, and ask them to support the Biden infrastructure bill, if this is an issue you care about.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Northwest I am surprised the USA seems to have no High-Speed Trains of any sort already.

Let alone equivalents of the French "TGV" ("Train Grande Vitesse") or the Japanese "Bullet Train" anyway. Although I understand something similar is being built in California - and as controversially as the "HS2" project in England, whose distances are too short for journey times significantly less than the fastest existing services. (I think HS2 quotes saving perhaps 20 minutes from Birmingham to London - less than 200 miles.)

I mean by "High Speed", the conventionally-powered, diesel or electric trains running routinely for long distances at >100mph on the existing lines. Not specially-built tracks, but the conventional ones; obviously continuously-welded and maintained to very high standards. All the level-crossings are full-width gated or where possible, replaced with road ramps and bridges. The trains are not drawn by separate locomotives but are either of multiple-unit form or a cohesive rake of unpowered coaches with a dedicated "power-car" at each end. Either way, the train has a driving cab at each end to avoid running-round and turning for the return trip.

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Magnetic Levitation, and the Linear Motor, were invented some 50 years ago here in Britain; by Prof. Eric Laithwaite of Manchester University!

We have brilliant scientists and engineers but unfortunately they are too often stymied by governments and money-traders. Policitians of all parties (the UK has several), and auctioneers (many foreign) of others' cash; collectively having little understanding and lack of appreciation of anything scientific and even less of engineering. Worse, also lacking any imagination and ability to think further ahead than General Elections or Quarterly Reports!

So we left Magnetically Levitating, Linear-Motor powered trains, as we did with the civilian nuclear power research in which we were once world leaders, to the Japanese and as you indicate, now the Chinese, to develop.

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I mentioned the French TGV.

The French government has announced it is going to stop air travel for journeys of less than two hours where rail services exist.

I don't know the details. It would obviously mean internal flights, but I wonder if it also includes some to neighbouring countries including Britain, linked by rail through the Channel Tunnel.

(Despite the aeroplane being 3 or 4 times as fast as the train, their overall journey times between two city centres several hundred miles apart may be quite competitive. A time-table shows only the machine's movement duration. Airports are well outside their cities and impose long transfer, booking-in, etc., times. Railway stations are in city centres and without those long preparatory times.)
Northwest · M
@ArishMell When the Airline industry was deregulated in the US, it removed one of the incentives to spend big on high speed trains. This has changed in recent years, and currently there are multiple projects in the US. We have one high speed currently operating between Washington DC and Boston.

first patent for MagLev (Magnetic Levitation) was issued in the US in 1901 or 1902, with several more to follow. Laithwaite didi not invent the technology but he coined the term MagLev for the Birmingham line that ran for a about a decade and was forced to shut due to safety/maintenance issues. That was not high speed, it topped at less than 45 Km/Hour. High speed MagLev requires super conductive networks. Something that was not available in 1984 when the Birmingham line was built.

The Biden infrastructure proposal provides for MagLev high-speed development and deployment.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Northwest Thank you. A while ago I found on-line by sheer chance (and could not find it again) a documentary made by a US TV company that examinded the question. It showed work being done on that line in California, and a train on the Washington - Boston line.

I think it did mention the airlines, but its main point seemed to be that once the USA had recovered from WW2 and could concentrate again on domestic, civilian matters the automotive industries mounted a massive advertising and lobbying campaign to put Federal money behind roads rather than railways.

A slightly similar thing happened in Britain but complicated by the much more direct effects of the War. That had left the railways in a dreadful state by bomb damage and the shortages of skilled maintenance (many railwaymen of course were away fighting) and materials throughout the War.

They were run by four large private companies, from Govt-enforced "Groupings" (amalgamations) of many smaller firms in the 1930s. These four started to rebuild themselves, but were then nationalised as British Railways in 1948. BR started a big modernisation scheme, but in the 1960s another Labour government (ironically) commissioned a review by Dr. Richard Beeching into the system's economics. This became notorious for its wholesale destrution of much of the network, forever associated with him but it was actually two Labour Ministers, Ernest Marples and Barbara Castle, who were behind it - and Marples at least had a big personal stake in the newly-started motorway-building programme.

Things did improve and BR, before being broken up into State-ownded "Network Rail" and an Byzantine tangle of commercial "train-operating company" and maintenance franchisees, started to create modern, High-Speed trains capable of using the existing main lines at speeds up to 125mph. (140 in a few places).

Now we have an odd situation where in a country too small and crowded phsyically to justify a High Speed line in the French or Japanese style, the government has decreed we will have one, "HS2", on a brand-new, specially-built line from London to the North of England, barely 300 miles away! Yet its electrifying of main lines in SW England has stalled, by shortage of money - comparing its massively over-engineered overheads gantries with long-established designs elsewhere on Network Rail, I am not suprised.

Rail passenger and freight transport in Britain has increased greatly in the last few decades largely as a result of faster and in places, more trains; but at cost of crowded trains; and of serious disruption on a congested network from single engineering failures, external obstructions, or suicides. (Suicides are the most common but least publicised external cause.)

Some stations closed by "Beeching" have been re-opened, others have been enlarged; some closed lines might be re-built where feasible. The Castle/Marples/Beeching plan allegedly included selling key railway land precisely to prevent re-opening.

You can't just send any spare freight loco out to tow a broken-down train to a safe station loop either. Our elected lot, of both main parties, over the years have replaced Britain's train-building expertise in the country that invented it, with assembling Japanese kits; and made no attempt to enforce compatible couplings between all designs - a desirable feature established way back in the 19C. The railwayman who told me that, added "That's privatisation for you!"

Trouble is too... who owns it? Huge swathes of the UK's rail services and I think HS2, are run by foreign railway systems, money-traders and even States; so the profits go out of the country and there is no real strategic control over it all; though our Government can, and occasionally has, taken over failed franchises.

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That's politicians for you.

You need 'em to find the money and overall planning, but don't let 'em try to dictate anything the least bit technical.

Most of them wouldn't even know a locomotive from a train!
Northwest · M
@ArishMell The California high speed line, is designed to be 800 miles, and goes between San Diego and San Francisco with several branches to major population concentrations along the way.

It is work in progress and not fully funded. It's a complicated story.

We have always been a car culture, but for longer distance, we prefer flying.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Northwest I can understand the preference for flying, by the size of the continent. There may be a sort of break-even point where even with very fast trains the total journey time between city centres means flying will be quicker.

I remember someone telling me he his wife were helping a relative (daughters I think) arrange visiting an aunt in California. When they suggested picking her up at New York, the aunt replied that she lives further from New York than they, the parents in England, do!

By comparison the entire length of England about half the length of the British mainland, itself under 800 miles. France is roughtly hexagonal, about 700 miles across-flats I think.

"Complicated story". I think all major civil-engineering projects are that, and I suspect if anything they'll become more complicated, not less. Part of that is politics, another might be environmental concerns; but another might be the nature of international finance now.