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How many times do you need to repeat a lie before it becomes true?

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Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
I tend to tell the truth that way I dont get confused.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit Whew! For a moment I thought you might be a Trump supporter.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair I actually like trump👍
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit That's interesting, since he cannot tell the truth. I guess if you don't believe in anything he says or repeat him, your initial statement could still be true.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Why are you so negative about someone, that's not nice or positive.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit It would be disingenuous to support someone who lied over 30,000 times when in office. That's not being negative--it is being realistic and supporting those who are better human beings. That's a positive thing.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair And other political figures dont lie 😂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit Not to that extent, no. We've never had a president who lied so often about so much. His own lawyer, Dan McGann, begged Robert Mueller not to interview Trump under oath, because Trump was "incapable of telling the truth." And that's his own lawyer saying that.
@windinhishair I was going to post that.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Pitchblue It was one of many incredible statements that came out about Trump while he was in office, by people who knew him well. It is mind-blowing that people continue to accept the lying, deception, theft, sadism, and criminality of the former president on the premise that he's no different than any other guy.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair You mean Trump actually told everyone everything put it all out in the open, just like all the previous presidents 😂
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit That makes no sense whatsoever.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Simple, politics is a dirty game, every president has probably done or said something, just who likes or does not like you is how much gets released to the press. lots of people did not like Trump because he just spoke his mind. personally I would rather have someone speak their mind than someone who hides behind the political system and still does the same things. look what Bush jr did lied to everyone in the world and started a war in Iraq, cost so many lives.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit Sure, every president has said something wrong, or done something we didn't know about. But we've never had anyone who did it constantly, or with malice toward a majority of the nation. There is a reason that Trump never had the support of even half of the nation for a single day of his failed presidency--the only president in history that is true of. It is a free country, and if you wish you can worship a man who was fundamentally incapable of telling the truth, who lied and still lies constantly. But I know we can do much better.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair You probably did not like the way he went about his job, causing mayhem with people or organisations who needed to be told they need to get their house in order, but I get it for some they just like calm in their lives.thats why they like presidents just to keep the truth from the people
@Justenjoyit He sent a Mob to hang his own VP. He sided with adversarial countries over the US. He treated allied countries and soldiers like garbage.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit It was more than about how he was doing his job. He failed miserably during his presidency, on everything from job growth (where he is the only president post-WWII to lose jobs), to unemployment (he left the unemployment rate at 6.1% where he inherited a 4.7% rate), to the budget deficit (he took a deficit that went as low as $437 billion under Obama's second term, doubled it immediately, and then sent it into the stratosphere at $3.3 trillion, almost three times the former highest, from the Bush/Republican Recession). His attacks on democracy culminated in a Trump Insurrection on January 6, and he continues to spew the Big Lie that he won an election that wasn't even close. Some people just prefer dictators as leaders, but only if they agree with his policies that can't be enacted any other way, because they are opposed by a majority of Americans.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Hey you are entitled to your opinion like every one else, so just accept people like me liked Trump👍
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit I do accept that. 74 million people voted for him. I just don't understand not only their acceptance of his malevolent actions, but their willingness and eagerness to apologize for his actions and lies. That people consider themselves moral human beings and yet support someone so profoundly immoral I will never understand.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Just accept that people like Trump and how he rolls😊
@Justenjoyit People like you don't need morality, credibility or the truth you need an idol to look up to.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@Pitchblue I am a real person who actually accepts people telling other people that they are wrong, Trump did that so good on him 👍
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit He definitely has a Cult following that is the definition of cognitive dissonance.
That is why patriotic Americans that believe in democracy must do everything in their power to prevent Trump's attempts to destroy democracy and install himself as Supreme Leader.
Justenjoyit · 56-60, M
@windinhishair If people want to follow him well it is a free country, and let them no skin off my nose.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Justenjoyit They have been and will continue to. His following is a Cult, so there is literally nothing he could say or do that would change their minds. His Cult should be aware that a significant majority of Americans oppose both his policies and his performance while in office, and his ongoing lies about the election. Trump will never have majority support in the US.