FBI announces arrest of Seattle-area member of ‘violent extremist group’
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mae eswards
mae eswards
1 year ago
Antifa? They are vicious.
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
No. They were fascists. You know, like Neo-Nazis, white supremacists/white nationalists.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society You're correct that these extremists weren't Antifa, but if the wording of your reply was unironic, if you're still unaware that Antifa are themselves fascist, then you haven't been paying attention. ✌️
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
@PixelPusha No, I don't follow the right wing media, which has given fascists and fascist groups a pass for far too long.
The group the suspects belonged to is Atomweffen, which is a right-wing extremist group.
Hope this helps.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society Thanks, I'm aware of who this group is, but if you live in the PNW, you ought to know what Antifa really are by now. Learn why the FBI and DHS designated Antifa a Domestic Terrorist Organization. You don't have to follow "right-wing media" to be informed, though that shouldn't stop you anyway--it pays to hear from people you disagree with. There are plenty of independent sources on YT but you can start with the Seattle subreddit where you can find uncut video of Antifa in Seattle and Portland, read what your neighbors think, and judge for yourself.
I sincerely hope this helps.
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
@PixelPusha You're really stuck on a group that was not mentioned in the news article, a disjointed, unorganized group which had none of their people arrested. Fascists, from a right-wing extremist group, known as Atomwaffen were taken into custody. Perhaps you should go back and watch the videos again. Multiple times.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society I'm aware this video is about Atomwaffen. I'm simply shocked to see--after the past several years of Antifa demos in the PNW--that any local today would think Antifa aren't also fascists.
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
@PixelPusha Atomwaffen Division is a right-wing extremist group. I'm not at all shocked that you don't want to talk about that.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society Relax, I'm center-left, I have no problem acknowledging that Atomwaffen are right-wing fascists. If you hadn't said "no they weren't Antifa they were fascists" we wouldn't be having this discussion. Don't be so quick to jump to ad-hominem attacks, I'm just trying to help clear up your dated misconception. Nice chatting with ya.
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Kythra the suntamer
Kythra the suntamer
1 year ago (edited)
@James Venner 90% of media outlets in the US are Objective too. The 10% who are conservative are biased and peddle conspiracy nonsense that is abjectly false. Those who watch fox news consistently poll as less informed than even people who ocnsume NO news at all.
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Kevin w
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Kevin w
21 hours ago (edited)
@Kythra the suntamer that statement is provably false LOL. Several studies are able to objectively prove that nearly all mainstream media outlets have a pro establishment bias. The establishment bias definitely is more beneficial to liberals than conservatives. Not sure why it matters that the grandma's who watch fox news are less informed than the 5 people who watch CNN.
Kythra the suntamer
Kythra the suntamer
1 second ago
@Kevin w First up as a rebuttal of your point "that statement is provably false" the argument that "Several studies are able to objectively prove that nearly all mainstream media outlets have a pro establishment bias." does not actually prove your point that the mainstream outlets are not objective, bias and accuracy are two different things entirely. Which is to say in essence the establishment is not always "inaccurate" just self serving. the truth is that sometimes too that what's objective is not balanced. Sometimes One side is telling the whole truth and only the truth and the other side has descended into the embrace of Conspiracy theory and irrationalism. The truth of that matter is that those who deny man made climate change for instance have surrendered to irrationalism. just because something is against the establishment doesn't mean it's not lying through it's teeth. I would suggest in contrast to your point that Fox news has an anti establishment bias and a horrible relationship with accuracy.
mae eswards
mae eswards
1 year ago
Antifa? They are vicious.
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
No. They were fascists. You know, like Neo-Nazis, white supremacists/white nationalists.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society You're correct that these extremists weren't Antifa, but if the wording of your reply was unironic, if you're still unaware that Antifa are themselves fascist, then you haven't been paying attention. ✌️
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
@PixelPusha No, I don't follow the right wing media, which has given fascists and fascist groups a pass for far too long.
The group the suspects belonged to is Atomweffen, which is a right-wing extremist group.
Hope this helps.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society Thanks, I'm aware of who this group is, but if you live in the PNW, you ought to know what Antifa really are by now. Learn why the FBI and DHS designated Antifa a Domestic Terrorist Organization. You don't have to follow "right-wing media" to be informed, though that shouldn't stop you anyway--it pays to hear from people you disagree with. There are plenty of independent sources on YT but you can start with the Seattle subreddit where you can find uncut video of Antifa in Seattle and Portland, read what your neighbors think, and judge for yourself.
I sincerely hope this helps.
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
@PixelPusha You're really stuck on a group that was not mentioned in the news article, a disjointed, unorganized group which had none of their people arrested. Fascists, from a right-wing extremist group, known as Atomwaffen were taken into custody. Perhaps you should go back and watch the videos again. Multiple times.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society I'm aware this video is about Atomwaffen. I'm simply shocked to see--after the past several years of Antifa demos in the PNW--that any local today would think Antifa aren't also fascists.
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White Rose Society
White Rose Society
1 year ago
@PixelPusha Atomwaffen Division is a right-wing extremist group. I'm not at all shocked that you don't want to talk about that.
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PixelPusha
PixelPusha
1 year ago
@White Rose Society Relax, I'm center-left, I have no problem acknowledging that Atomwaffen are right-wing fascists. If you hadn't said "no they weren't Antifa they were fascists" we wouldn't be having this discussion. Don't be so quick to jump to ad-hominem attacks, I'm just trying to help clear up your dated misconception. Nice chatting with ya.
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Kythra the suntamer
Kythra the suntamer
1 year ago (edited)
@James Venner 90% of media outlets in the US are Objective too. The 10% who are conservative are biased and peddle conspiracy nonsense that is abjectly false. Those who watch fox news consistently poll as less informed than even people who ocnsume NO news at all.
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Kevin w
Highlighted reply
Kevin w
21 hours ago (edited)
@Kythra the suntamer that statement is provably false LOL. Several studies are able to objectively prove that nearly all mainstream media outlets have a pro establishment bias. The establishment bias definitely is more beneficial to liberals than conservatives. Not sure why it matters that the grandma's who watch fox news are less informed than the 5 people who watch CNN.
Kythra the suntamer
Kythra the suntamer
1 second ago
@Kevin w First up as a rebuttal of your point "that statement is provably false" the argument that "Several studies are able to objectively prove that nearly all mainstream media outlets have a pro establishment bias." does not actually prove your point that the mainstream outlets are not objective, bias and accuracy are two different things entirely. Which is to say in essence the establishment is not always "inaccurate" just self serving. the truth is that sometimes too that what's objective is not balanced. Sometimes One side is telling the whole truth and only the truth and the other side has descended into the embrace of Conspiracy theory and irrationalism. The truth of that matter is that those who deny man made climate change for instance have surrendered to irrationalism. just because something is against the establishment doesn't mean it's not lying through it's teeth. I would suggest in contrast to your point that Fox news has an anti establishment bias and a horrible relationship with accuracy.
