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Why Wouldn't He Simply Obey?

Last week, Jay Inslee, Governor, Washington State, asked the State's Attorney General, to investigate Pierce County Sheriff Ed Troyer over his Jan 27 confrontation with a Black newspaper carrier.

Troyer, started following 24-year-old Sedrick Altheimer after spotting him going house to house on his delivery route. At one point, Altheimer stopped, walked toward Troyer and asked why he was following him. Troyer did not identify himself, and instead demanded that Altheimer show him identification. Altheimer got back into his car, and continued with his paper route, and at one point, Troyer blocked him in a driveway, and called 911.

[quote]“Hey, it’s Troyer,” the caller greeted a 911 emergency dispatcher over an internal hotline.

Pierce County Sheriff Ed Troyer then proceeded to report that he’d “caught someone in my driveway who just threatened to kill me, and I’ve blocked him in.”

“He’s in some sort of gray car, and he was in my driveway and in my neighbor’s driveway, and he knows who I am and he threatened to kill me and I’ve got him blocked in,”

“OK, does he have a gun or anything?” the dispatcher asked.

“I have no idea,” the sheriff responded. “He looks homeless in his car. He was in my driveway and I got in my car and he was in my neighbor’s driveway and tried to get in my garage.”

“OK, I have units headed your way,” the dispatcher told the sheriff.

“I just need one or two real quick. He was at my neighbor’s houses and climbing all over…” the sheriff said, his voice trailing off.[/quote]

Even as the dispatcher tried to get more details, South Sound 911 prioritized Troyer’s report as a “Priority 0: Officer Needs Help” call, alerting all 19 law enforcement agencies within the dispatch center’s service area. Only potential mass-casualty events such as a lahar — a mudslide caused by a volcanic eruption — are given a higher priority designation, a dispatcher would later explain to an officer.

42 police units responded.

Within about five minutes, officers realized the man — who is Black and denied ever threatening Troyer — had been delivering newspapers.

“We do not have a crime at this point,” an officer radioed to a dispatcher at 2:15 a.m. “Just a misunderstanding.”

Then, Troyer started to change his story. Denying that he said the man had threatened him, until he finally admitted to what really happened.

“All he had to do is calmly say, ‘Hey, I am delivering newspapers,'” Troyer said.

Turns out that this is not the first time someone had tailed and harassed Altheimer, despite the fact that he delivers papers 6 days per week.

So, all he had to do was to calmly obey? I don't know why blacks in our country cannot simply obey.
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I say there should be a full investigation into the claims he is being harassed and into the officer's reported behavior here.

I am betting there is more to this story, as it sounds kind of sketchy, and the media has a severe credibility issue lately, especially when it comes to race.

Hoping more details come out in the future.
Northwest · M
@PrivateHell There's really not much more to it. This is why the Governor is stepping in, as the Pierce County Sheriff's office is not. Oops, he is the Sheriff.
@Northwest there's ALWAYS more to it. Especially when the media says or implies there isn't. But the investigation shouldvreveal the truth one way or the other. If it turns out the Sheriff was/is racially motivated, he needs to be fired and sued. If there was something else going on, it should stand as more evidence (but won't) that the media is garbage
Northwest · M
@PrivateHell It's an elected office, and sure, there are different viewpoints, but the raw facts are the raw facts.

After saying that the guy threatened his. life, he made the following statement later:

[quote]“I didn’t even know he was Black until he was out of the car and the cops came. [b]I never talked to him. I never talked to the guy[/b]."

....

“I couldn’t even tell you that he looked all that Black”
[/quote]

How black does he need to be? Hint: there's no mistaking him for black.

There are certainly different viewpoints, but fired? This is an ELECTED office.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/black-newspaper-delivery-driver-detained-after-pierce-county-sheriff-claims-then-recants-threat-to-life/

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/pierce-county-sheriff-ed-troyer-faces-calls-for-resignation-over-confrontation-with-black-newspaper-carrier/

And the audio:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/audio-pierce-county-sheriff-repeatedly-claimed-man-he-mistook-for-a-prowler-threatened-to-kill-me/
@Northwest fired, recalled, impeached, removed... Choose any semantic you want, the meaning remains.

And all this is fine and good, but I would still wait for the results of the investigation. We have had more than enough trial by media over the years.
Northwest · M
@PrivateHell [quote]fired, recalled, impeached, removed... Choose any semantic you want, the meaning remains.

And all this is fine and good, but I would still wait for the results of the investigation. We have had more than enough trial by media over the years.[/quote]

There is no trial by the media here. The AG will investigate, but the public record (see the link) tells me all I need to know about the story. I've been following it since it happened, and why I shake my head anytime a white man does not understand why a black person, may not feel like being a good boy and listen to what the white man tells him.
@Northwest it isn't about so long over and doing what the white man wants. In most (damned near all but not quite) cases being reported in the news today, it is about following the damned law. That is not a white or black thing, it's a common sense thing.

If this case is as it is being portrayed here, it is the exception, not the rule. We have a guy (and I don't care if he is white, black or purple with orange spots) trying to do his job, and being harassed by the police. In this case, if it is true, there needs to be a reckoning and house cleaning down at the sheriff's office. It's inexcusable, whether it is a race issue or just the cop doesn't like him personally. It's abuse of power.

On the bigger issue... One day there will be a reckoning for the media. I am encountering more and more starting to wake up and realize they are being manipulated and lied to. Sooner or later, it will all come crashing down and I personally can't wait.
Northwest · M
@PrivateHell Sadly, you continue to miss the point. But I am not surprised.

The scrupulous media is not going anywhere anytime soon. What you don't get, is that they're not manipulating you, they're affirming everything you believe in.