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New pro-cop propaganda just dropped

Citizen, are you prepared to learn about another excuse the cops thought up that makes it okay when they kill you?
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LoveTriumphsOverHate · 36-40, M
I don't think it was a mistake at all. She just made that up to cover her ass. Kinda like when a wife cheats on her husband and claims it was accidental.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@LoveTriumphsOverHate yeah, i don't think it was a mistake either. in that moment she made the decision to shoot the man. She was shocked by the clarity of her overreaction, not the shock of using the wrong weapon. but there is really no way to prove it one way or the other.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@LoveTriumphsOverHate She is heard on tape clearly commanding Wright to comply or he would be tasered. At least twice.

She's is heard on tape clearly saying she was readying her taser for deployment.

She is heard on tape clearly yelling the requisite "Taser!" three times, as is protocol.

She is clearly seen on tape aiming not on a kill spot as she's been trained and trained others to do; she aimed at his midsection, where a taser would be deployed.

She is clearly seen on tape firing a single shot, as would be the case with taser deployment. No other guns are aimed at the subject. No other officers fire. One officer is seen turning in surprise.

She is heard on tape realizing her mistake in real time and her shock is clear.

Don't you all think it's a little late in the day to live like petulant children who refuse to listen to simple logic?
NoahB · 26-30, M
@Graylight [quote]Don't you all think it's a little late in the day to live like petulant children who refuse to listen to simple logic?
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Whats your point exactly? Do you think her being so incompetent as to confuse a taser with a gun after having 25 years of experience is a better excuse for killing a man? She's already been charged with manslaughter, which i felt was the appropriate charge, so all I care about is if the charges stick.
@Graylight I accept your take on the intent to use a taser, barring other evidence.

But this makes it even more clear that either she or her training was inadequate to the task. (Or perhaps both were.)

A traffic stop shouldn't able to be turned into a cage of death (2 go in, 1 one comes out) just because one carries a badge. That would make us Nazis, etc.

Oh, wait...6 Jan...yeah...
LoveTriumphsOverHate · 36-40, M
@Graylight The facts of this case cannot be summed up into a mere 7 sentences. You declare that the murder was an accident based on the reaction of the accused - as if anyone who is going to commit murder would do it so openly with obvious intent - with the knowledge that she is being recorded. The premises in your argument are clearly not true. If she was going to pull the gun, she would have done exactly as she did, just like the thousands of other cops who were caught on video killing unarmed black men and claim similar defenses.

Someone died here. One would have to question how is it that a decorated police veteran with 25 years of experience on the force could make such an absentminded mistake and also if she followed standard protocol. Even if this was an accident, it was callous. The case resembles the incident that occurred in 2018 when yet another white female police officer fatally shot and killed a 22-year old young black man. It seems there is always an excuse and these officers are never truly held accountable for their actions - particularly when it comes to the killing of young black men.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@NoahB My point - exactly - is this: You live like petulant children who refuse to listen to simple logic.

Was that not clear?

@SomeMichGuy Normally I'd agree this was a training issue. But she had 26 years on the force, 10 of those years training others. Sometime, despite absolutely everything done right, things happen. Planes go down, ships run aground and sometimes people die. We don't control for the entire universe - we're just creatures running along its surface. The stop never, ever should've gone down the way it did, but that's a departmental training issue and a larger discussion about police militarization. In the melee, a deadly mistake was made - the kind that can deplete the soul every day for the rest of the person's life. Not everything is so simple as to be convertible into prison time.

@LoveTriumphsOverHate With respect, I'm done discussing this with those who fail to understand or simply were never trained in the neurological science, human factors and executive function. You're right that it can't be adequately debated on a forum lie this, but incidents like this have long occurred and will continue to occur long after we've decided a human being must be omniscient, omnipotent and infallible in action during a life-threatening crisis. Just because it seems sense, makes us angry and is tragic doesn't make it a crime.

Parting word: Let me play Opposing Side for a minute and say all the things normally reserved for you guys in cases like this. He refused to hang up a phone when commanded. Restrained and being spoken to, he broke free of custody, entered his car and may have been trying to flee the scene. He struggled with officers. If a professional military Lt. can justifiably get pepper-sprayed for asking why he was pulled over, the I should think your side would advise Mr. Wright to follow the rules, respect the police and not act like a criminal if he wasn't one. Why not just go through the motions and then file a complaint, as was the big line yesterday in discussions of Lt. Nazario.

Your hypocrisy is astonishing.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@Graylight I’m saying your logic is severely flawed. And the only one who looks like a petulant child is you with your condescending tone and name calling.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@NoahB No one called you a name. And you say condescending, I say educated. You decide.

The great thing about threads like this is that words speak for themselves. You're part of a niche within a 70 million-voter enclave. You represent a small faction of screamers whose best tactic is puffing themselves up to appear larger than they are. In a house with no mirrors, you never have to see things as they really are. Not so in the big world.
NoahB · 26-30, M
@Graylight we've been having protests, riots, and civil unrest for the past 10 years regarding police brutality. but sure, im the 'niche'
Graylight · 51-55, F
@NoahB Is it that you twist everything to suit your perspective or d you truly have a learning impediment?