When will it be the time?

@soar2newhighs Or maybe an outsider is not emotionally attached to a specific answer. Being a citizen doesnt give you magical insight.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow a citizen
Involved in the debate might well
Have a better understanding of it. I
Don’t believe in magical
Anything but if things were magical we wouldn’t have the problem would we,

@soar2newhighs Again. You are assuming falling out of a vagina between invisible lines somehow gives you that insight. So that is effectively magical insight. See my previous comment about being too emotionally invested in a particular answer.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow what the hell are you going on about?
I’ll simplify: unless the person posting is directly affected then be mindful of how comments are put out there.

@soar2newhighs You were the one who proclaimed being born within imaginary lines aka borders gives a person some sort of innate incite which is just silly and the nativist arguments are pretty much always made out of emotional lashing out and rarely has anything to do with the actual merits of the argument. In fact most Americans can't look at this objectively because they latch on to their side of the gun control issue and work backwards to "prove" their confirmation bias.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Well when the people who have been let to come here by Biden and they decide to leave and head toward the US/Canadian border ( not an imaginary line)what will you Canadians do? They’re already doing it. Accept them or turn them away? Not all
Canadians might feel as you do. And before you really get into us and our guns and our lashing out, I need to ask how you Canadians are dealing with your First Nations tribes, something I was not aware of until one of your fellow countrymen lamented their plight numerous times.
And 300 million plus is far different than what, 38 million Canadians when you speak on the issue of guns.
Our major rate of gun homicides is taking place in
Our major cities and if you follow the crime rates and guns our major cities are killing grounds, far worse than what gets traction, the massage parlor and super market shootings. It’s a daily occurrence.

@soar2newhighs Well first off here in Canada we don't cower in fear from refugees and we actually look at data and facts on immigration. And this is actually more likely since the Canadian Supreme court for the first time ever a couple years ago determined the US is not a safe country to send people back to.




And sorry but that is moving the goalposts to avoid dealing with the issue which shows what you are about First Nations has nothing to do with guns. Quit trying to change the topic. I wonder why you are so desperate to do so?



And again trying to change the subject to something else. Even when adjusted for per capita you don't get off on this one.

And even on the major crimes you are wrong. Louisiana has the highest gun mortality rates in the nation which has less people in total than the city of Toronto.

@soar2newhighs When did immigration become part of the gun controversy? This is the crux of the issue - the obfuscation and deflection of those so rabid about some sense of personal freedom, the very concept of "gun" is now synonymous with it.

We have a high, high gun use and death rate in the US.
We have a lot of guns.
We celebrate a culture of perceived power and status through intimidation and oppression.
If we can't trust each other with guns, then we need to find a better way of keeping and using them.
Simple.

[i]Mace[/i] is illegal in some states, but guns are unregulated. Tasers are illegal in many states, but AR-15's are a-okay. And when there's a tragedy, we don't run the calculation through our head: 1 unstable individual + 1 or more firearms = death. Rather than re-work the formula, we introduce all kinds of flotsam and jetsam: hoodies, bump stocks, type of ammo, amount of ammo, where the gun was purchased, some magical background check that would uncover what had yet to be diagnosed, any and all kinds of irrelevant strawmen.

Lawmakers have made the concept of gun ownership absolutely synonymous with keeping Big Gov't at bay, controlling all the 'others' coming to get us, personal freedom and patriotism. Even though the clear majority of citizens favor some kind of sane regulation, the men (mostly) charged with doing the peoples' bidding a refusing to move.

We don't need so many guns. We certainly don't need to glorify them. In the lofty argument of gun control and freedom, this is what many imagine:
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This is much closer to the truth:
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@Graylight Never cede your personal freedoms to Government. If you do you will be subjugated by that government. Your government will not deal with the heart of gun homicides in America , primarily black on black killings occurring on a daily basis in a number of American cities, the number far higher than the shootings such as in Georgia and Colorado. Both need to be dealt with but your government is a failure and plays by politics and race on the issue.
An example:the so called VP, Kamala Harris let her battleship
Brain and mouth overload her brain and rowboat ass calling out the Colorado
Shooter as a white man. She had to retract her statement.
Immigration and gun issues are separate matters to
Be dealt with separately.

@soar2newhighs First off this has nothing to do with your "rights" and you really went there with the white supremacist dog whistle. Yikes. Talk about saying the quiet part out loud.

Funny you should mention race because you are the first person to make this discussion about race. Curious that.


If immigration and guns are seperate issues why have you been trying to confuse the two topics up to this point?


As for the shooter being white that is by far the norm. In fact for the shooter not to be a white male is a rarity and according to the FBI white right wing terrorism is the greatest terror threat to Americans. But somehow you want to shift this to the "black on black" trope.

@soar2newhighs We also need to talk about how when it is a white right winger the topic is always an "isolated incident" involving a "mentally ill" person and just ignore the fact that if he was of any other skin tone we would be talking about terrorism.

@soar2newhighs I am also curious. Are you calling him not white because of his apparent religion? Curious. You do know Caucasian Muslims are a thing right?

@soar2newhighs Arabs are technically white. Just look at that guy, he’s whiter than your typical Italian.

It’s mayos all the way down.

@QuixoticSoul it’s that whole future time orientation thing that allows mayos to plan these things

@QuixoticSoul
what is your remark “mayos”? You referring to white people?

@AthrillatheHunt Also explains why Italian project management is world-famous.

@soar2newhighs

@QuixoticSoul you referring to whites as mayos? Yes or no.

@soar2newhighs I literally gave you the definition lmao. Don’t worry, I have the m-word pass.

@QuixoticSoul m word pass . So entitled. 😂

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@stratosranger They do if it forwards their agenda, especially if the shooter was white which in the case of the Colorado shootings, it was as many liberals, progressives and radical left wing Democrats are hard pressed to know it was not a WHITE shooter but a person of color

@stratosranger This is bullshit because it pretends like these shooters are almost all white right wing incels. And when the shooter fits that description everyone pretends it is an isolated incident by one single crazy person and ignore an obvious pattern.