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I regret to inform you all that history will not save America from itself

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TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
It’s interesting how each party has an extreme side. I don’t really follow either.

I was reading about The Great Leap Forward.

And while the Capitol riot reminds some people of 1930s Germany,

The BLM/Antifa/Woke crowd reminds me a lot of the Red Guards of the 1960s
@TakingBackMidgaard Antifa is the right wing's way of making themself look good

by making lefties look as ugly ignorant and violent as themselves

but they are all nazis

words are Orwellian weapons these days.

beware to the three of you who actually care about this stuff
@TakingBackMidgaard all lives matter and Black lives very much

DO NOT EQUATE BLM with violent naziism

They exist to COMBAT violent Naziism
TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
@Elevatorpitches the allies defeated nazism in the 40s

The only thing left of that are some single lined family tree inbreds I wouldn’t seem a threat.

I’m equating BLM, Antifa, college socialists to the Red Guards during the the Great Leap Forward in China.

Like I said every side has an extreme side.

For example of extreme sides. The Spanish Civil War. Republicans vs Fascists.

I’ll never get why the left thinks the right is purely extreme and why the right thinks the left is purely extreme.
PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
@TakingBackMidgaard "The BLM/Antifa/Woke crowd reminds me a lot of the Red Guards of the 1960s"

Ok, boomer.
TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
@PrincessAwesome We are around the same age / generation
PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
@TakingBackMidgaard But you clearly have the boomer brain issues.
TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
@PrincessAwesome because I read up on historical events within humanity and compare and contrast them to present times?

If being a boom means being well informed and eager to learn more, I’m okay with that.
PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
@TakingBackMidgaard
"The BLM/Antifa/Woke crowd reminds me a lot of the Red Guards of the 1960s"

You're just parroting talking-points from conservative memes. That's not being well informed. Seriously, the woke crowd?! Do you also believe cancel culture is real?
TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
@PrincessAwesome

You can tell you're a young adult "Socialist." Just blindly agrees with what everyone else is blindly agreeing with. Well since you don't seem to know much about what you follow or what you're saying, let me help you with an excerpt from Matthew White, a historian and scholar with over 377 citations in published books and 183 scholarly articles.

Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. (The Great Leap Forward)


The opening shot of the Cultural Revolution was small and tentative. In November 1965, a literary critic trashed a popular play that contained an obvious satire of Mao in the guise of a Ming emperor. Within six months wall posters in the big cities had denounced all of the major moderates in China. With the party apparatus in the hands of the moderates, Mao stirred up ideological cadres of students to do his dirty work. He himself stayed aloof from the struggles. The first recorded death by torture was on August 5, 1966. A swarm of students denounced and set upon the headmistress of a prestigious girls school for important government daughters. They kicked and trampled her, forced her to carry bricks until she collapsed, and finally beat her with belts and sticks as she lay dying. Two weeks later, Mao dressed in his army uniform for the first time since the civil war and stood atop Tiananmen gate to review a parade of the new organization of enthusiastic students, the Red Guards. Later that week, the Red Guards hauled thirty of the nation’s best-known writers, musicians, and artists into a library to scold and beat them while books, art, and other cultural artifacts were burned in a bonfire. In Beijing alone, during August and September, thirty-four thousand homes were raided. Old manuscripts were burned, paintings slashed, musical instruments smashed. Some 1,800 people were beaten or tortured to death, and before it was all over, five thousand of the city’s seven thousand registered historical monuments were destroyed. The Red Guards were encouraged to run amok during the Cultural Revolution, destroying all vestiges of the forbidden past, waving the little red book of Mao’s quotations that everyone in China was required to buy. Wrong thinkers were dragged out and paraded through the streets in dunce caps. Any trace of Western influence or Confucian tradition was to be eradicated. Men were beaten for merely owning neckties. In January 1967, the minister of coal became the first senior official in China to be tortured to death. He was sliced, beaten, and smashed against a concrete floor. China’s head of state, Liu Shaoqi, and his wife were publicly beaten and tortured in an auditorium full of screaming Red Guards, and later the husband was killed in prison. Two of their children were also killed. Deng Xiaoping was sent to a labor camp. Zhou Enlai survived the purges only because he had remained friends with Mao’s wife, Jiang Qing, when she was out of favor in the 1950s. In the south Chinese province of Guangxi, fanatic mobs tore apart and ate at least a hundred enemies of the state. Cafeterias displayed bodies on meat hooks and fed them to workers. Students killed, cooked, and ate their principals. One study has suggested that the most fanatic Red Guards were the children of previously purged middle-class parents. Whether they were trying to prove their loyalty or to get some payback is anyone’s guess—probably a little of both. As a rule, however, entire families were dragged out and punished for any crimes pinned on the head of the household. Mao began to rein in the forces of destruction after 1968. As with so many of his schemes, it became obvious after a couple of years that the Cultural Revolution was undermining China’s viability. Because most of China’s schools were shut down during the Cultural Revolution, an entire generation would enter adulthood distinctly under-educated. Now that the Red Guards had successfully broken the moderates, it was time to break the Red Guards. They were dispersed into the countryside, to work on the farms and reinvigorate their working-class identities. It was a successful cover story that served to dilute the concentrated power of the guards. Red Guards who tried to stay behind in the cities were then hunted down and killed by Lin Biao’s soldiers.


Atrocities: Pg 435
PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
@TakingBackMidgaard "You can tell you're a young adult "Socialist." Just blindly agrees with what everyone else is blindly agreeing with. "

Really? So how come there are no mainstream socialists in American politics? I'm blindly agreeing with everyone else, but I want an economic system that has no mainstream support?
Again, you're just parroting memes without thinking for yourself.
And China never had socialism. The fact that you think they did shows you don't know what socialism is.
TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
@PrincessAwesome I provided from a scholarly publication and you call it a meme.

China is a socialist society due to the the party retaining control over the direction of the country, maintaining its course of socialist development.

Are you sure you’re not the boomer? Can’t do a simple google search?


PrincessAwesome · 22-25, F
@TakingBackMidgaard "I provided from a scholarly publication and you call it a meme."
No, your idea that socialists are just stupid kids who believe what everyone else believes is a conservative meme. And as I explained, it makes no sense.

Socialism involves collective ownership of the means of production and the decommodification of essential businesses.
China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany never had those things. Sure, they CALLED themselves Socialists, but they did not have Socialism.
TakingBackMidgaard · 31-35, M
@PrincessAwesome for one I am not a conservative, you having to use the meme excuse just shows your bar raw ability to utilize information.

Citing a man with hundreds of citations in the historical and political fields of scholar isn’t a meme. Which makes me believe your just one of those people who is going through a “socialist” phase.

Kind of like when people would go through a goth, emo, hipster, anime phase.

I like how you name a list of socialist / communist nations and have to state “that’s not real socialism”

I can only assume you will name places like Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Canada, as socialist, not understanding what a Capital welfare state is. Their economies flourished post World War II due to open market and the millions of jobs opened up after post war opportunity.

Maintaining economic reserves under a free market did themselves wonders until the European Union jacked up a lot trying to network an economic federation within different forms of government and market in its many nations.

Can I ask, what do you do for a living albeit work and or school? And what does most of your money go towards?
@TakingBackMidgaard The Red Guards? Wow. That is next level hyperbole divorced from reality.😂
@TakingBackMidgaard And pretending nazism ended in 45 is just intellectually dishonest.
@TakingBackMidgaard It doesn't matter if you give yourself a conservative label. Your political positions are objectively right wing, to the point of cliche actually.