Why do republicans think its ok to allow guns for terrorists and other demented people ?

@Pfuzylogic i am perfectly fine with normal people owning guns... but the republicans want demented people to have weapons

@Bad4U
My concern is with semi automatic and automatic weapons. They are considered assault weapons. It wouldn’t hurt to have a special category for domestic terrorists.

@Pfuzylogic yeah its a bit weird... you are allowed guns.. but when i ask for bombs of chemical weapons i get looked at weird. i mean you wont fight of the queen of england with some lousy assault rifles... every american should have free access to bombs

@Bad4U The last time I saw bombs used was in the strategy game called Stratego.
I got the impression that the Capitol Raiders were the same kids that played with plastic soldiers and never grew up.

@Pfuzylogic Only Automatic weapons are classified as assault weapons.

Any automatic weapon built after the 1986 assault weapon ban is illegal to own.

Any automatic weapon pre-1986 carriers a hefty price and requires a cos rant tax stamp. The ATF also has permission to enter your property without warrant if you legally possess an automatic weapon, Suppresser, SBR, Etc.

Buying an actual pre-1986 M16 which would be the A2 and or A3 would cost well around $20K to $50k.

The civilian version of the M16/M4 would be the AR15 or AR10 of using .308. Is not an assault weapon as it is only semiautomatic.

@TakingBackMidgaard
Then include Demi-automatics such as the AR-15 involved in mass slayings.

It is time that these weapons are used only in the military which they were designed for.

@Bad4U Dam good point. But they're so expensive. lol

@Pfuzylogic once again the AR15 was designed for civilian use. The M16/M4 was designed for military and law enforcement use.

I’d rather us ban alcohol. More people die from alcohol related incidents every year than shootings let alone mass shootings.

Alcohol also doesn’t serve a practical purpose.

But most people are all hunkydoory about getting shit faced.

I’m also all about banning fast cars or enforcing speed governors on engines as we must obey the speed limit and more people are killed every year from automobile accidents than shooting a let alone mass shootings.

But most people are hunkydoory about speeding, not using their directional, running red lights etc.

Baby steps my friend. Let’s eliminate what kills more people annually before hitting the smaller issue.

@TakingBackMidgaard we tried that alcohol ban already.. glad we finally get rid of the weed ban. so its not weapons thats the problem.. its what people have the weapons...

and one party has been campaigning for years to keep criminals, pedophiles and terrorists armed.

@TakingBackMidgaard
The AR-15 is the weapon of choice for mass murderers. It would be the perfect place to start and stop these Capitol raiders.

@Bad4U I’m not a Republican so this isn’t a this party good that party bad move. But Reagan helped push the 1986 assault weapons ban.

Trump made more restrictions on firearms than Obama had. Especially with his ban on making Bump Stocks purchasable.

Criminals, The registered mentally l, Pedophiles, etc can’t legally purchase a firearm.

And if they do/did that’s a felony not just for them but the seller.

I teach a self defense course for women, senior citizens, etc. this is what we go over day one.

@Pfuzylogic I don’t recall much of a fire fight at the Capitol.

@TakingBackMidgaard
Do you think it requires a major firefight at the Capitol to withhold firearms from people easily deluded about the election. McConnell acknowledged the ruse deployed by trump.

@Pfuzylogic only one person was shot and killed and it was a rioter shot by security. This is a poor example for you to use.

@TakingBackMidgaard so you agree that anyone involved in the capital terrorist attack should never be allowed to carry a gun ? damn you sound like a communist

@TakingBackMidgaard
It was an excellent example why legislators need to keep firearms from fools.

@Pfuzylogic @Bad4U not a single rioter used a firearm against anybody? Again poor example.

However, those who were prosecuted face the penalty of having any firearms confiscated and forfeit the opportunity to purchase a fire arm.

That’s what the majority of us law abiding gun owners go through, it’s no different for them.

However I am not a Republican nor Trump supporter. But watching you two desperately cling on to the riot as an example pretty much sums up your ignorance on gun ownership.

I highly suggest taking a self defense course and a gun safety course. Otherwise, your opinions don’t hold much merit.

@TakingBackMidgaard
You characterize us in a desperate manner but that is what happens when someone loses an argument based on facts and safety of the American citizenry. I served 22 years in the U.S. Navy and fully support arms control for citizens. We have too many example of irresponsible rioting by white supremacists and if it takes the sheriff going door to door and confiscating weapons them so be it.

@Pfuzylogic I’ve noticed that when you run out of anything to bring to the table that holds weight you play the “I was in the navy” and or “your losing the argument”

An argument is meant to change minds and you have not said anything to attempt that. All you did was talk about the Capitol riot for some reason.

Quoting yourself being in the navy is an Appeal to Authority. If that’s what makes you think qualifies you over others, that’s a fallacy. If this case were true, then I suppose you’re wrong since my Father was in the 75th Ranger Regiment. He is now a retired Detective for my home towns Police department. Now also volunteers for teaching firearm safety.

My brother is in the 311th support brigade as a 240 gunner.

I have heard sound arguments about stricter firearm laws. Yours is far from that. Honestly you’ve made no points at all.

Lastly, simply saying “facts” isn’t a fact or citation.

I know your mindset completely, it’s common. You listen to respond but don’t listen to learn. You will keep talking to get the last word assuming that makes you a “winner” but 9/10 conversations like this are not about whose right who is wrong. That’s why you are one of the worst people to try and advocate for these things because you don’t actually care about the subject, but “winning” an argument.

All you’ve done is prove to me that you have no knowledge on the subject at matter, you’re merely a troll.

@TakingBackMidgaard
Let me make this crystal clear.

I am not trying to convince you of anything.

I am concerned about gun laws that have needed change for decades.
You list your father and brother as references to honorable service to the country and yet leave yourself out.
That doesn’t surprise me since most “hawks” and gun advocates are like that.
Big on talk and short on action.
The NRA is going bankrupt and I love it.
Time to protect children.
Let me know when you do something commendable.
I notice you have nothing to refer to my friend.

@Pfuzylogic but you said it was an argument... and Arguments are meant to bring points to contrast and see common ground or which overs the other.

I mention my family because you played the authority card thinking you could make due by stating you were in the navy. So I played theirs. Which you quickly hasted back in. Typical with you, you’re very predictable.

I couldn’t enlist due to asthma and A replaced knee. But I I do my best otherwise with volunteer work in self defense courses, being a scout master, and running an inner city youth fishing program.

I work as an environmental scientist for the state of Indiana so I like think I’m protecting Mother Nature.

These I’ve mentioned before but again, you listen to respond and not learn.

Luckily there are many other groups far better than the NRA that protect firearm ownership. The NRA doesn’t a piss poor job.

Your “so ha” jabs and failed position of authority card pretty much makes you wrong by default.

Especially yammering on about the riot this and that and those white supremacists. Again, nobody mentioned them but apparently on white suprematists are gun owners in your head it seems. That’s pretty racist to think minorities can’t be firearm owners.

Leave the firearm talk to the professionals my guy. You clearly are clueless on the matter😉

@Pfuzylogic What does any of that have to do with the topic on hand? We went from gun ownership rights to Indiana politics and Trump?

For the third time. I’m not a Republican, I’m not a Trump supporter, didn’t vote for him this election, I did in 2016 but realized that was a poor decision.

I don’t support the riot, but they don’t represent gun owners. My self defense class is a diverse range of elderly, assault victims, minorities, etc.

Do I have to explain this a 4th time?

It seems you’re commenting to people for mere reactions. And not actual reason.


I’m editing this to add an image. But you’re grasping at straws trying to call me an aryan for practicing Norse virtues. But I’m a member of the Grimfrost Clan and House Grimnir so try again.

@TakingBackMidgaard
I see you are fired up and followed my response to kick up the dirt.
I will repeat this to make it clear.

The legislature will have a chance to pierce in the heart the movement to bear assault weapons. I will include the AR-15 in that.
I seriously doubt that you would surrender your weapon though if it were made illegal.

@Pfuzylogic I’m not fired up. I am however concerned about your inability to take in words you read or in this case can’t read or just simply go into some mental tangent.

I’m starting to doubt you were in the military since you failed to know what an assault weapon is and knowing the difference between weapons legal for civilian use and what weapons are issued to military and law enforcement.


Especially since you tried using military service as a way of making you morally superior.

You also seem to have ran out of assumptions and ad hominems.

At this point you are one of two things. A troll or horribly uneducated. Maybe even both.

Better luck next time buddy🤣