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Is anyone else tired of Joe Biden supporters that cant say one good thing about Joe Biden, but can say all the bad things that his opponents have done

It is time for the Joe Biden supporters to actually state some facts about Joe Biden and how it has effected his community or the nation. I can't see why some people voted for him. I want it to go well with Joe Biden, but I think this is really stupid that most people can't think of one or two things that he has done to benefit anyone beside his political career. He has been in office since November 1972, he has been in office for 48 years, and most people can't figure out what he has done. I want to hear something he has done well!
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Northwest · M
[quote]I can't see why some people voted for him[/quote]

About 81 Million Americans to be exact.

[quote]I want to hear something he has done well![/quote]

There's this company called Google, it has an amazing product, called a search engine.

https://www.miamidadedems.org/joe-biden-accomplishments-list

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/opinion/joe-biden.html

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-achieved-40-years-politics-1541278

I did not vote for him to worship a personality. That's not what politics is about, something Trumpsters may not be aware of.
dsrice · 56-60, M
@Northwest I have heard of Google, I want to know what he has done to help you!

And what if your point, I want to know WHY they voted. I want to hear something good about Joe Biden.
Northwest · M
@dsrice Again, google

There's this company called Google, it has an amazing product, called a search engine.

https://www.miamidadedems.org/joe-biden-accomplishments-list

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/opinion/joe-biden.html

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-achieved-40-years-politics-1541278
dsrice · 56-60, M
@Northwest AGAIN I am asking for what has Joe Biden done for YOU - I can look up on GOOGLE all day. I am not stupid - TRY AGAIN, What has Joe Biden done for YOU - Here is what he has done for me:

1. Nothing

Here is what Trump has done for me:

1. Reduced Sex Traffic Criminals
2. Crime is down
3. Lower taxes for the lower and middle income brackets
4. Lower prices on prescription drugs (As a Type 1 Diabetic, this was the first year that I have seen a reduction in prices in insulin, in the 41 years of being a Diabetic)
5. Lower Unemployment across all races

Plus many more, but these effected me personally, What has Joe Biden done it is your turn............waiting.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@dsrice He did these things for you before you voted for him? Your entire setup here is really quite nonsensical.
Northwest · M
@dsrice [quote]what has Joe Biden done for YOU[/quote]

It looks like you have a basic misunderstanding of the vert thing you're asking.

Let's take your imaginary list of the things Trump did for YOU:

[quote]1. Reduced Sex Traffic Criminals[/quote]

Do you mean to say reduced sex trafficking victims? Was this specifically done for YOU, or for all sex trafficking victims? As an aside, this is not something he introduced. It's what law enforcement has been doing all along.

[quote]2. Crime is down[/quote]

So, then crime if down ONLY for YOU? If crime is down, it's down for everyone. As an aside, here's the violent crimes chart


[quote]3. Lower taxes for the lower and middle income brackets
[/quote]

Was this ONLY for YOU? No. As another aside, relatively speaking, taxes were lowered the most for those who don't need it: the wealthiest Americans and corporation, and promises of new jobs never materialized.

[quote]4. Lower prices on prescription drugs (As a Type 1 Diabetic, this was the first year that I have seen a reduction in prices in insulin, in the 41 years of being a Diabetic)[/quote]

So, this was done specifically for YOU? NO. As a matter of fact, the PROPOSAL to lower drug prices was finalized only on November 20, 2020.


[quote]5. Lower Unemployment across all races
[/quote]

So, then you identify as multiple races? NO. As a matter of fact unemployment was on a downward slope starting the year following the Obama presidency started. I would not brag about unemployment numbers now. China's economy grew by 2.3% in 2020.

So, what are the things that Trump did specifically for YOU... I am waiting.
dsrice · 56-60, M
@QuixoticSoul NO that is not true. These were all done in 2020 - READ AGAIN! - You guys just don't get it. These are all personal to me.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@dsrice I presume you voted for Trump in 2016 - at that point he's never been in politics and has done nothing for anyone.
dsrice · 56-60, M
@Northwest Well, you don't have to wait long, I have to wait for ages for anyone to say something good for Joe Biden - Which is the whole point of this post. I don't feel like getting attacked.

This is not an imaginary list - this is my list and it is personal for me.

Trump put more Sex Trafficking Offenders in Jail and got justice for the wrong that are done to them. It is the lowest in centuries.

Lower Crime helps all of us, I mean do I really need to say that. The direction and Joe Biden's policy to defund the police further is going to increase crime like in my home city of Seattle, which is all led my the 9 idiots on the City Council

Lower Taxes helps all of us, I mean do I really need to say that. It help small businesses and your local community. We spend more when we earn more.

I have been a T1D for 43 years, this is the 1st year. I said this now 4 times. Trump signed it into law and the 1st lower payment I got was in December. I don't know how this is more personal. I have two T1D in my family and we and our insurance paid 193,000 in diabetic supplies, that is probably going to be about 35% lower for 2021, this is not Biden's doing, this is the 1st time this has happened for me for the 43 years of being a diabetic. This is personal for me.

Lower unemployment help your community and your household.

Enough said.....
Northwest · M
@dsrice [quote]Well, you don't have to wait long, I have to wait for ages for anyone to say something good for Joe Biden - Which is the whole point of this post. I don't feel like getting attacked.

This is not an imaginary list - this is my list and it is personal for me.

Trump put more Sex Trafficking Offenders in Jail and got justice for the wrong that are done to them. It is the lowest in centuries.

Lower Crime helps all of us, I mean do I really need to say that. The direction and Joe Biden's policy to defund the police further is going to increase crime like in my home city of Seattle, which is all led my the 9 idiots on the City Council

Lower Taxes helps all of us, I mean do I really need to say that. It help small businesses and your local community. We spend more when we earn more.

I have been a T1D for 43 years, this is the 1st year. I said this now 4 times. Trump signed it into law and the 1st lower payment I got was in December. I don't know how this is more personal. I have two T1D in my family and we and our insurance paid 193,000 in diabetic supplies, that is probably going to be about 35% lower for 2021, this is not Biden's doing, this is the 1st time this has happened for me for the 43 years of being a diabetic. This is personal for me.

Lower unemployment help your community and your household.

Enough said.....[/quote]

Cool, so it looks like you understand that while the government is supposed to be doing things for US, it does not tailor it for either YOU or I.

Review the list of links I provided for the things Biden did for the people of the United States of America.

Perhaps you should actually look at the charts I provided. Glad you paid less last month for Insulin. You should check who made that happen.
Northwest · M
@dsrice

About this:

[quote]I have been a T1D for 43 years, this is the 1st year. I said this now 4 times. Trump signed it into law and the 1st lower payment I got was in December. I don't know how this is more personal. I have two T1D in my family and we and our insurance paid 193,000 in diabetic supplies, that is probably going to be about 35% lower for 2021, this is not Biden's doing, this is the 1st time this has happened for me for the 43 years of being a diabetic. This is personal for me.[/quote]

It turns out the price of Insulin dropped about 6% in 2020, driven by the availability of generic drugs. The brand names continue to rise.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/how-much-does-insulin-cost-compare-brands/
dsrice · 56-60, M
@Northwest This is what you get when you google everything -

Is there a generic insulin? - Real Answer - NO! NO! NO! they have tried several times and the big companies in control, J&J, Novodisk, Lilly - shut them down.

See the following article:

https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/why-is-there-no-generic-insulin#:~:text=But%20the%20reality%20is%20there,blamed%20for%20some%20of%20this.

So @Northwest, why don't you take this from someone that has paid for their insulin since I was 10. There has been no relief from insulin prices until now. I have always taken a Name Brand. It is the MOST EXPENSIVE disease to have. Take it from me, I have paid and my insurance has paid. You don't have the experience that I have and the empty wallet that I have because I have 2 T1D in my family.

https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/insulin-cost-and-pricing-trends/

There is no such thing. Maybe do so research with facts....That is what I deliver everyday.....Just the facts.

This discussion is over. I know what is true for me. You can live in your fantasy world and make things up for people that are actually living in this.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@dsrice Of course there is “generic” insulin - for a diabetic you seem a bit confused about both history and politics of insulin in America.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/how-much-does-insulin-cost-compare-brands/

[quote] Since 2019, the overall retail price of insulins has declined by nearly 6%. Most of this decline can be attributed to the recent approval of generics, and the biosimilar counterparts that have been on the market.

In 2019, Eli Lilly released the first generic insulin, insulin lispro, the counterpart to the popular rapid-acting insulin Humalog. Since then, the FDA has approved generic versions of Humalog 75/25 (insulin lispro 75/25), Novolog (insulin aspart), and Novolog 70/30 (insulin aspart 70/30).

At present, retail prices for generic insulin lispro and insulin aspart are about half that of their brand-name counterparts, Humalog and Novolog, respectively. The same goes for the generic mixed insulins, insulin lispro 75/25 and insulin aspart 70/30, compared to Humalog 75/25 and Novolog 70/30, respectively. [/quote]

Btw, as anyone with a chronic condition, you should be thrilled that Trump was not successful in his goals of killing Obamacare.
Northwest · M
@dsrice [quote]Maybe do so research with facts....That is what I deliver everyday.....Just the facts.[/quote]

Funny thing, if you read that link I included in my response, you might have saved yourself some embarrassment.

Alternately, you COULD have read past the first page of the article you linked to, like page 2 or 3, you would have seen this:

[quote][b]Copycat insulins now available
[/b]
Despite these obstacles, some less-expensive versions of name-brand insulins have become available to consumers in recent years, including:

Insulin Lispro

This is Eli Lilly’s own low-cost version of Humalog, its bolus (short-acting) insulin cash cow. Announced in March 2019 and launched in May of that year, it’s not a biosimilar, but rather an “authorized generic” according to the FDA. That means it’s essentially identical to Humalog. All Lilly did was slap a new label on an existing brand — a move they say they would have liked to have done earlier, but they first had to grapple with cumbersome government regulations.

What it costs and who benefits: The list price of Lispro is 50 percent lower than that of Humalog, which makes it currently about $137 per vial. (Many diabetes advocates insist it should cost a lot less.) According to Eli Lilly, the patients most likely to benefit from it are Medicare Part D beneficiaries, people with high-deductible health plans, and the uninsured who currently use Humalog.

Insulin Aspart and Insulin Aspart Mix

This is Novo Nordisk’s lower-cost version of its NovoLog and 70/30 mix, both mealtime (fast-acting) insulin brands. Announced on September 6, 2019, these authorized generics are exactly the same as NovoLog and mixed insulins, except with a different name on the label.

What it costs and who benefits: The list price of Insulin Aspart/Insulin Aspart Mix in both pen and vial options are 50 percent lower than that of NovoLog and 70/30 mix (such as $144.68 per 10mL vial, compared to $280.36 for NovoLog). These half-price versions became available in January 2020, and the patients most likely to benefit are those on high-deductible health plans and the uninsured who currently use NovoLog or 70/30.

Admelog

This is yet another version of Humalog, but it’s a biosimilar made by a competing company, Sanofi.

What it costs and who benefits: When it was released in April 2018, Sanofi proclaimed that Admelog had the “lowest list price” of any mealtime insulin on the market. But, alas, it costs about only 15 percent less than Humalog, as DiabetesMine reported.

That said, it’s more available than Lispro to people with commercial insurance. And in May 2019, Sanofi announced their ValYou Savings Program, which offers deals on Admelog and its other insulin brands for those who don’t qualify for its other Patient Assistance Programs.

Basaglar

This version of Sanofi’s basal (long-acting) Lantus insulin was introduced in the United States by Lilly and Boehringer Ingelheim in December 2016. In the U.S., it’s technically called a follow-on insulin because of its regulatory pathway, while in Europe, it’s considered a biosimilar.

What it costs and who benefits: Basaglar generally costs about 15 percent less than Lantus. Since the cost savings are minimal, it’s been referred to as “the expensive Lantus ‘generic.’” Frustrating.

Basaglar is available on many commercial insurance plans. And Lilly offers a Patient Assistance Program for Basaglar, like its other medications.

Semglee (glargine)

Pharma companies Mylan and Biocon announced in June 2020 they had received FDA clearance for their new Semglee basal insulin, which is the second knockoff of Sanofi’s Lantus long-acting insulin. This insulin had been approved in Europe, Australia, and other countries under different brand names before finally getting a green light for sale in the U.S.

Semglee is FDA-approved for children ages 6 to 15, as well as adults with both type 1 and type 2 diabetes. It will come in U-100 concentration in both 10mL vials, as well as 300-unit, prefilled insulin pens with one-unit dosing increments. Pricing details weren’t yet finalized at the time of regulatory approval, but Mylan expects to finalize launch plans by the end of 2020.

Are copycat insulins the same as originals?
Only one so far is identical: Lispro, made by the same company that produces the original, Humalog.

The FDA only requires biosimilars or follow-ons to be “highly similar” to the medications they’re copying, but not identical. So if you want to substitute a copycat insulin for the type you’re using now, it’s important to work with your healthcare provider to determine if the dosage needs to be adjusted a bit.

Homemade, open-source insulin

Since pharma companies aren’t doing a good job of making affordable insulin, the Open Insulin Project wants to help people make it on their own. The project is working on what it calls a “freely available, open protocol” for the production of low-cost insulin. Think of it as do-it-yourself generic insulin for independent developers.

The project’s founder, Anthony Di Franco, lives with type 1 diabetes himself. He envisions moving production away from pharma companies to “small collectives or pharmacies, clinics, and hospitals” where insulin can be manufactured in platforms that would cost only about as much as a small car.

The group has made some progress since they got initial funding in 2015 and have recently gotten a lot of media attention. But it’s too soon to predict if, and when, they’ll make a big difference in the lives of PWD.

Even if they develop a protocol for home-brewed insulin, according to experts at Colorado State, the success of the project will be “severely limited by the cost of regulatory approvals, which include proving biological consistency, safety, and possibly efficacy.”

It’s worth keeping an eye on these intrepid pioneers. But sadly, it doesn’t seem likely that they’re going to solve the insulin pricing crisis in the very near future.


What about “Walmart insulin”?

Since we’re talking about cheaper insulin, Novo Nordisk’s Novolin ReliOn brand deserves a mention here. Sold for just $25 a vial without a prescription at Walmart, ReliOn includes “Regular” (short-acting), NPH (longer-acting), and 70/30 (biphasic insulin), a combination of the other two.

These ReliOn products are not generics or biosimilars, but rather older “human” insulins — as opposed to the newer “analog” versions being produced today. Many patients and doctors agree that these older formulations clearly don’t provide the same level of blood glucose management as newer insulins.

But if you’re forced to choose between using them and doing without or rationing insulin, these older insulins are certainly preferable.
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Northwest · M
@QuixoticSoul I've already given him this link.