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Are these people that scared?

I say this cheek in tongue/but we now have people calling for de-programming those who support/ed Trump who allegedly as these fools say he is a cult leader. He upset the apple cart of many in government while in and had many loyal followers which is no different than say Obama who garnered numerous followers. When politicians and people well known start calling for this type nonsense then you realize we have very scared or nervous people out there. Oh if you get de-programmed must you wear a mask?

And if this stupidity keeps up Joe will pay hell trying to unify the country.
Repete · 61-69, M
If you lead a group that thinks it ok to riot in the capital , loot, pillage. Because you lost an election in a fair election , spread fake news ( lies) about wide spread fraud that had ZERO evidence after it went to court 50 times or more and never won one case with judges he picked. YES I think there’s something wrong with their leadership or lack thereof .
That’s my opinion backed up by the Jan 6 show and the court cases on file. The thugs made it in once this time if they do it’s going to be harder.
@Repete Agreed.
Graylight · 51-55, F
No, if you're not a fool you wear a mask, fool.

You tell us what else accounts for the rabid and blind, unquestioning loyalty to a man who has never shown the least amount of tangible benefit to them is, then.

The difference between most leaders and Trump - and there are many - is that those men and women strove to help the greater good, flawed and human as they were. Trump is about Trump, at the expense of the globe if necessary. And professionally speaking, he's clinically and dangerously mentally ill.
@Graylight Agreed.
You are welcome to your opinion, but if you think what happened on 6 Jan in WDC is somehow a wonderful thing, or that a man who

• continually lied (& still lies!),

• was not even a successful businessman (as revealed by culling through his financial records; he LOST money on EVERY business he EVER ran, except for Trump Tower),

• doesn't understand the real sources of American power,

• is the only person in that office who kept claiming he was a genius when he doesn't even understand the *basics* required to even step into the Oval Office,

• has violated his oath multiple times, culminating in the 6 Jan insurrection,

...well, you are welcome to worship him, but he IS the leader of an extreme cult. We are so close to Nazi Germany it is shocking...

I am sorry that Republican leaders who knew and still know better colluded with him; they are also culpable in spite of the few who expressed their "deathbed conversions" late on 6 Jan.

I am sorry that Fox and an array of online, AM talk radio, etc., "news" organizations colluded in this nonsense; they are also culpable.

I am sorry that a host of far-right "pastors" and self-proclaimed "prophets" also have been part of this effort to mislead ppl.

I know that that sounds like a long list; had I been told a decade ago that this would happen, I would have said that whoever said this was full of crap.

I would have been wrong.

It is not hard to get at the truth for yourself, but a host of actual *news* organizations--not opinion-spouters--have been reporting the truth for a while. Trump hates the truth like cockroaches are said to hate light. Sorry, it's true.

There were all kinds of clues, but you are free to ignore them, believe QAnon nonsense, etc.

But please do understand that it is a known phenomenon that being told a lie many times over makes you believe it. It can happen on both sides, but, e.g., I watched some crucial parts of both the Wayne Cty. Board of Canvassers (for Detroit) & the Michigan State Board of Canvassers (for the entire state), live, and can tell you that wild tales of a truckload of votes, etc., are either flat-out lies (truckload) or misunderstandings (the rerunning of votes was because of clerks in outlying return places not completing their submissions of votes, and the election officials are not there to disenfranchise any voter because of THEIR--the election workers'--incompentence).

The whole weight of these conspiracy theories collapse when you look too closely...or even approach them.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
You should wear a mask if you're not a complete and utter idiot, no deprogramming should be required.
@QuixoticSoul We don't institutionalize idiots really, and locking up all antisocial disease spreading idiots is problematic.

Look at the backlash and uproar over businesses just trying not to be complicit with them today on SW.
Calling for deprogramming, I agree it's a sign we have real problems.

Having said that, the so called Trump cult seems very different and, imo, much more truly cult like than the so-called Obama cult.

We need education (civics) more then true deprogramming, imo, and public debate on misinformation, etc.
Repete · 61-69, M
Misinformation sounds nicer than outright lies . Misinformation is a mistaken concept before all the proof is obtained. In this case it’s been to court many times with the same results . Lack of evidence to back up any of his LIES.

I do agree with you but I like to call a spade a spade and he is definitely a very dark spade in my opinion.@MistyCee
@Repete I hear you and personally agree, but when public officials start calling people names like deplorable, it's a sign we're in a bad place, and this particular cult is huge and has a lot of true believers who lie for their lord and, if they see it at all, justify it by saying it's a both sides thing.

We may not have much of a shooting civil war, but its war of a sort, and the casualties are going to be economic, personal, careers, businesses, for sure.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Deprogramming may be beneficial to those who have become part of the Trump Cult, but has no place in a free country. Light can overcome darkness, and the best approach is to return to a fact-based and reality-based world and let those who have adopted the Cult find their own way, as most will eventually. That assumes, of course, that they do not resort to violence and other crimes--if and when they do, they should be subject to arrest and charges just as any other citizen would. Over time, the risk from the Cult will diminish.
fddlpej · 61-69, M
@windinhishair I think their might be more of these third Reich supporters in the United states than Germany now.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@fddlpej That may well be the case.
fddlpej · 61-69, M
@windinhishair people down south still haven't gotten past the civil war and taik about the south rising again. To bad they don't work on supporting themselves and don't have to have Yankees money to support their state
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Hmm don't know about that but I can say that Obama followers were NOTHING like Trump supporters who quite honestly are overwhelmingly angry, and suffer from delusions and an inability to think for themselves, let alone to question the constant diet of fake news they are fed.
It will be hard to assimilate those people back into normal society
fddlpej · 61-69, M
Well that's true about Obama. But none of them violently attacked the capital or marched on the Capitol armed. People like that have some kind of problem wouldn't you agree.

 
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