Should people who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid 19 be forced to ?

@MARTAisback Hardly. Evidence neither supports nor refutes this notion.

@Amyrakunejo I find it pretty funny that nearly everybody who says no are from the USA lol

@MARTAisback I may reside in the US, it is not my home.

Fact remains, people are flocking to fearmongering and that's the true danger.

Free Will trumps any and all mortal-written edicts, hands down. Free Will is the Ace of Spades.

@Amyrakunejo free will is all well and good but you can’t just claim it as sacred without looking into the context of our responsibilities to others.

@MARTAisback 🤦‍♂️

@Amyrakunejo I get what you are saying you are pro liberty and that’s cool with me.

@TopOfTheWorld responsibilities to others? We have zero responsibility for others. I do believe you are trying to articulate a greater good argument. Which was used for massive amounts of evil acts carried out by governments across the globe and throughout history.

@Ozuye502 zero responsibilities for others, seriously? So it’s ok for me to walk down the street shooting people randomly if I feel like doing so because my right to exercise my free will trumps my responsibility to not disturb (or kill in this case) others?

@Amyrakunejo Thank you for posting that. You are correct, the studies are still ongoing regarding the benefits and risks associated with all of the vaccines. Right now, they have been approved in most countries for emergency use, because the various governments believe that the risks outweigh the benefits of vaccinating their populations given the few months of data that they have.

@TopOfTheWorld when you pose a threat of physical violence I have the responsibility to respond for my own safety and my the Gods help you if I’m with my daughter. Now there’s something called the nonaggression principle I seriously suggest you look into it.

@Ozuye502 What has that got to do with anything? As you’ve completely avoided addressing my point about your “we have zero responsibilities to others“ claim, I’ll try one more time. Your daughter is minding her own business walking along the street when a car roars past her missing hitting her by a whisker. The driver is way over the speed limit and drunk but that’s ok because he has no responsibility to others, including your daughter. Are you still really ok with that?

@TopOfTheWorld understanding the nonaggression principle will allow you to understand that reckless actions are aggressive behavior (thus can be responded to with force up to and including lethal force) so is forcing individuals to take an injection. The 2 are in no way related due to the percentage of individuals to achieve heard immunity is something like 75-85% it’s not unreasonable that an individual will take their doctors medical advice on if they should or should not take a vaccine. So your argument is invalid in both cases. There’s thousands of people who have not had every single vaccine and are living just fine. When was your last tetanus shot? 10+ years ago?

@Ozuye502 I never said anything about the vaccine but as you’ve brought it up , I completely agree with you that nobody should be forced to take it, absolutely. As for us having zero responsibility for others , do you really still mean that even in the light of my examples of why I think you’re very wrong about it?

@TopOfTheWorld Actually, our main responsibilities are to ourselves and ourselves alone. I, myself, I come first before anyone else, my needs must be met before I can meet someone else's needs.

If you've ever heard the phrase "You're useless if you're dead," this is exactly what they mean by it. My priority is myself, my needs, and yes, they are unmet because of all this crap going on.

@Amyrakunejo our main responsibilities are to ourselves? That’s fine, I don’t disagree. But of course ‘main’ is a very different thing from ‘all’ and clearly we do have responsibilities to others (unless perhaps we live completely isolated and totally off grid). As I said, free will is fine and has it‘ s place but you have to consider others too. I’m sorry your needs are currently unmet but I’m sure you can appreciate there are billions of people right now who could say the same , it’s really not all about you.

@TopOfTheWorld if you are living by the nonaggression principle you understand that 1 any and all acts of reckless behavior can and most likely will involve someone using force against me and 2 I can only use force in response to reckless behavior or unjust force. Keeping yourself happy and sustained and productive you are covering the idea of being responsible to others. And being that the post is about forcing people to get the Covid vaccine I’m trying to stay on topic here.

@Ozuye502 ok so you do agree we have to take some responsibility for how our actions affect others, thank you. And we also agree that nobody should be forced to take the vaccine, so that’s good.