I want to know how many Americans know who creates jobs in the private sector? Also I'd like to know how many of you know the breakdown of how the tax

I want to know how many Americans know who creates jobs in the private sector? Also I'd like to know how many of you know the breakdown of how the taxes are paid between the classes in place today?

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SatyrService · M

I find the term job Creator, to be a misnomer. Most the time the term is used on certain media Outlets to mean a rich guy!

Most of the people who are wealthy and are becoming more wealthy are not doing so by creating jobs they're doing so by manipulating finance and in fact most of these so-called job creators, actually only create jobs in the financial sector and or overseas.
It is the middle class, that drives our economy not the upper 1%. It is small and middle-sized companies, that create the most jobs.
When Ultra large businesses conglomerate together the first thing to go is employment Amazon our beloved giant company, had roughly 60 thousand employees 5 years ago the same amount of money they process, if run through small and medium-sized company would have six hundred thousand jobs!
the average worker in the United States actually makes less money now than they did in the early 70s. by comparison the income of the highest classes has skyrocketed.
income inequality in America is currently kicking at roughly the same rate as it did in the 1928 crash.
The most prosperous. Time, In recent American history was the post-war boom through the early 70s.
Income inequality was much lower tax rates on the highest percent or higher education was cheaper at a better educated Workforce earned more money, and thus could spend more money keeping the economy of those days robust. Since then, the so-called job creators, and the politicians they own, in both parties, have sent most well paying American jobs overseas. So many familiar American company names like Black and Decker and Coleman and thousands of others are now just logos that are slapped on products made most often in China.
To make matters worse, the US dollar has slid to astounding Lows in absolute value since that trasition time in the 1970s when they proceeded to deregulate Banks deregulate media allowing it to be concentrated into the hands of a very few very conservative corporations, the major commercial Banks now create our money supply, by creating loans that at the top provide value to those at the top but by the time the money gets to you and I and the teacher and the worker it has lost its value and so we pay Evermore while having stagnant wages.
What few jobs are currently created within the United States generally no longer have benefits or reduced ones, often have no retirement funds available. And are themselves low-paying often service-sector jobs. If you are still reading I should love to suggest a few things to watch that go into this subject in Greater detail than I can hear.
if we really wanted to create more jobs, good enough to take care of a family, then we might look to Nations like Germany and Sweden and some of the others in the European Union that go to Great Lengths to make sure their Workforce is well-trained and they have Industries to take them.
the truest job creators, come from having a healthy and robust middle class.
the American oligarchs primarily just use their money to make that stack bigger to the detriment of all working people.

Still want to talk about taxes?

SW-User

@SatyrService You're correct about many super wealthy getting so by manipulating finances, but overall you're wrong about taxes. We have say... 100+ years of history showing that lower taxes generate more and better jobs. If you think otherwise, please re-read your history cause you got it all wrong.
I admire what Germany and Sweden have done, but those are very specific cultural and economic situations, not replicable here. What's more - Germany has stopped creating jobs and it was never a strength of Sweden, and neither of those countries have the robust innovation that the US benefits from. There's a reason why immigration between even successful European countries and the US always heads in the US' direction - and it has to do with freedom, opportunity, and innovation.

You really need a better grasp of the facts if you are going to wade into this debate.

SatyrService · M

@SW-User e].
First , I get my data from things like the IRS, congressional finance data, university of Chicago, not rush Limbaugh, or Alex Jones.one should remember, the corporate tax rate, only works for those who pay their taxes! For most of the last 50 years and especially of the last 20 , most of the American large corporations and you can go look at their tax returns, ended up with a negative tax rate GE 4 years ran at -45% or greater. In addition corporate welfare payments far dwarf those of all of the traditional welfare payments combined. So how much taxes are they paying? If you want to talk about the health of the nation and prosperity as regards tax rates I invite you to look at the data in the United States available from every government agency and many private colleges showing that the years between say 1950 and 1972 or so were the most profitable and prosperous years in our nation. This coincided with some of the highest tax rates for the upper bracket that we have ever had. In that same time University education was cheap or free, most American workers had jobs that could support a household on one person.
We had the best trained and most Innovative Workforce in history. Then,
Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Clinton Bush administration's removed the banking protections that cost caused our most recent collapse . they also removed restrictions on monopolization of media. They even got rid of the fairness Doctrine. Now the bulk of all media is controlled by about 12 companies and only two of those have any hope of being called liberal.
The oligarch class, rather than creating jobs in America, ship them overseas and moved a bunch of their finances offshore.

It is certainly true, that even in prosperous Europe, folks are still moving West after all we've only had a couple hundred years to fully exploit the advantages of this continent so it is still in comparison pretty open.
What Germany does and what we could do that is valuable is don't insist that every student in high school go on to some four year university let them study something else let them study mechanics, building trades, civil engineering etc.there are so many field we no longer have skilled workers for, let people in so much, that we have to import them from overseas.

When it comes to rereading history, I do so continually. And further I update my information with the new information as it comes forth.
I invite you to look up Smedley Butler,
Lifelong Marine, most decorated ever,who after he retired wrote about this habit we had we gained of Imperial activity on our neighbors. I invite you to read his pamphlet "War is a Racket"
The revisionist history that we have in our dumbed-down school curriculum, skips over some of the worst excesses in our history.
How about looking at the fact that both income inequality and low taxes for the super-rich are at almost identical places in 1928, and 2010.
Does your memory of History include the crash of 28 or the one that we suffered from 2007 through 2010. Graphs available on request.

Lastly,

let me say I was so pleased at the civil nature of you responce,
So rare here and in social media
Then suddenly

. You really need a better grasp of the facts if you are going to wade into this debat

I shall assume low blood sugar, Ad Hominem attacks, are not an argument, ,only a sign of emotions, overcoming reason.
It amazes me that the once fiscally conservative and socially private Republican party is now dominated by people who want nothing more than to have emotional over reaction to anything that might threaten their carefully hoarded privilege.
I invite you to crack a book, and not get your information from pundits and
Provocateurs.