Are you a capitalist or a socialist? What matters most to you, profits or your family?

@Adstar Ancient Egypt was closer to what we call fuedalism than capitalism.

@MethDozer Feudalism ran on capitalism.. Capitalism is a way of earning money by trading resources and services and that's been happening for thousands of years..

@Adstar No, they are two distinct systems. Face facts, all economic systems involve trade and compensation. That's what makes them economic systems. The difference between them is how the procurement, trade and compensation is conducted and how and to whom the wealth is distributed.
Fuedalism isn't capitalism and socialism still relies amd involves trade and compensation. Capitalism says ownership of prodiction amd trade along with the wealth generated by it belongs to he/or she who owns the means either through developwment and creation of said means or to whom who jas purchased said ownership and rights. Fuedalism says all of that belongs solely to a royal bloodline class and the nobility it chooses to award it to based on land borders. Any and all profits, goods, land,etc. belongs to a Lord of the land and what gets distributed to the commoners on the Lords land is what that lord chooses to give back or allows to keep. Capitalism was European reaction to statt freeing people's work from these lords.

@MethDozer Trade for profit runs in ALL SYSTEMS of government.. The Soviet union in the 1930's exported tons of wheat to the western powers to earn the capital they needed to buy the specialist factory machinery they wanted for the modernizing of Soviet Industry.. The Soviet union also exported Oil and military weapons for PROFIT.. Just like the communist country of China is export driven to earn profits for their system..

NO one and i mean NO ONE is going to trade stuff for cost price. Everyone Dictatorship monarchy socialist communist you name it will all seek to make a profit on what they export so that they can buy the imports their Traders buy from other countries..

So capitalism remains a constant down throughout the centuries no matter what kind of government system a civilization adopts.. A communist will not produce a barrel of oil for the production costs of $10 dollars a barrel and then sell that barrel to a capitalist for $10 dollars a barrel.. There is NO point selling it for cost price.. They will always seek to sell their oil for 20/30/40/50 dollars a barrel..

@Adstar What the hell are trying to say? What are you on about with this selling at cost nonsense and what doea anything you have to say have to do with fuedelism relating capitalism? Or socialism for that matter? Read a book.

@MethDozer Would a Feudal lord back in the middle ages who's domain produced Iron ore that he had to pay the serfs 2 dollars a ton then sell that Iron ore to a neighboring Lord for the same price He paid for it??? NO He would seek to sell it for 3 dollars a ton otherwise he would not bother paying his serfs to go mine that Iron for export.. This is very simple MethDozer.. Capitalism has been a constant for thousands of years in civilizations all over the world and socialism changed nothing when it comes to capitalism.. And yeah get off the Meth and maybe you will be able to understand clear and simple facts..

@Adstar You have no idea what capitalism, socialism, fuedelism means. Let me explain something to you. No economic system says goods and services are given at cost. Capitalism isn't defined as making a profit on a good or service. The difference between these different systems is how and to who the wealth generated by labor and trade is distributed. Who profits off of what, how they do it, and to what degree. You're making absolutely no sense because you have no idea what you're talking about.


Serfs weren't really paid anything. They were given the priviledge to farm some land that belonged to the lord in exchange for working a bigger part of the lord's land for him to profit off his land through their labor. Any currency given back to the serf was charity and at the lord's desire.


Again, read a book.