COVID is a scam

@butterflybaby75 The first 200,000 Trump dead and their grieving families and friends beg to disagree.

@windinhishair The vast majority of those 200,000 dead had an average of 2.6 serious co-morbidities that actually caused their death. They averaged 78 years of age.

@HeWaits You couldn't be more wrong. Many of the co-morbitities were caused by the coronavirus. The 200,000 Trump dead is valid, and is almost certainly undercounted based on mortality nationwide this year compared to other years.

Age is irrelevant to the discussion, unless you condone killing the elderly. Trump lied while people died.

@windinhishair So Covid cause cancer, diabetes, COPD heart disease and asthma? Really. Age is a factor in Covid deaths because, try and pay attention, the elderly have naturally weakened immune systems. Pleurisy which the young can relatively easily recover from p, kills the elderly regularly.

Cuomo, Murphy and Lamont, governors in the northeast, are directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of elderly by restricting then to poorly equipped nursing homes to die, essentially untreated, for Covid. Cuomo killed more New Yorkers than bin Laden did.

@HeWaits So what if the elderly are more prone to die of coronavirus. You can't just write 200,000 Trump dead off because they are elderly. You continue to show your utter lack of humanity.

Trump killed more Americans so far than 65 9/11s. Unfortunately there are sorry excuses for human beings such as yourself that support the carnage.

@windinhishair You don’t get it. They were already sick with a average of 2.6 serious co-morbidities. A common cold or seasonal flu would have likely killed them.Trump closed the border to travel from China in January and was called a racist for it by Pelosi who invited everyone to come to the Chinese new year celebration. Lots of other democrats did too. Fauci said no one needed a mask.

The steps those governors took were ineffective and wrong-headed so you blame a Trump even though he had no authority to take the steps you now think we’re necessary.You’re grasping in your efforts to blame Trump but it's to be expected considering the intellectual consistency you’ve shown so far

@HeWaits You clearly do not understand either co-morbidity or the covid virus. Speaking to you is like trying to get a dog to understand nuclear physics. It just isn't happening.

Trump killed 200,000 Americans just as surely as he pulled the trigger on a gun. His willful ignorance of prudent steps, which continues to this day, dooms even more to death. Which you gleefully accept. Did you celebrate crossing the 200,000 threshold?

@windinhishair The wind in your hair is blowing through the holes in your head. I well understand co-morbidities and You just demonstrated you don’t.

If the topic were the tragic consequences of untreated, insane, a Trump derangement syndrome, you might be worth talking to. On any other subject you bring no evidence, analysis, introspection or logic. You hate Trump and your unconcealed bias colors everything you write.

Don’t let his next 4 -1/2 years as president and, likely 3 SCOTUS picks bother you too much.

@HeWaits You clearly do not understand that when you have co-morbidities and die of covid, it is counted as a covid death, as it should be. And when you look at actual data (you do know what data is, right?), it is clear that 200,000 Americans have died from covid-19 this year, and Trump has been the biggest factor in the excess deaths that were preventable. Almost every other developed nation on earth has done better, but we are saddled with an incompetent monomaniacal president who cares not if US citizens die. Apparently their deaths don't bother you either, since you are willing to sacrifice the elderly.

You are free not to talk to me if you can't handle the truth.

@windinhishair If you ever choose to speak the truth write back. Until then I’ll just file you under Fool with the other brainless libtards.

I suppose you could come to believe that RBG died of Covid despite years of pancreatic cancer

@HeWaits RBG didn't have covid, and will not be counted as a covid death. You really aren't very smart, are you? I'm sure you are happy, because she was elderly, and expendable.

@windinhishair Again, two points I never made so you make up shit you can argue about. You have a weak mind and poor character.

@HeWaits [quote]I suppose you could come to believe that RBG died of Covid despite years of pancreatic cancer[/quote]

[quote]The vast majority of those 200,000 dead had an average of 2.6 serious co-morbidities that actually caused their death. They averaged 78 years of age.[/quote]

You keep choosing to be intellectually dishonest and lying about what you've said. No wonder you support Trump.

@windinhishair I didn’t say RBG died of Covid; I clearly said I believe YOU could come to believe that. As deluded as you are, you could probably come to believe she died of prostate cancer.

The facts I reported about co-morbidities and the average age of mortality was not a statement about the acceptability of those deaths because of the age, but a (very clear) point that the elderly with an average of 2.6 serious co-morbidities each might not, reasonably, blame Trump’s handling of Covid for their deaths.

You should look into careful reading, it’s a valuable life skill.

@HeWaits A valuable life skill you shall apparently never have, sadly.

Obviously it eludes you that co-morbidities often originate with the coronavirus. I doubt very much that the elderly who develop them and then die would reasonably absolve Trump of his malfeasance in the pandemic. But those people living in LaLaLand or TrumpWorld might believe that.

@windinhishair Give me clinically proven examples of cancer, TB, asthma and heart disease originating from COVID.

It’s just this simple. You’re a maniacally driven sufferer of terminal TDS and little things like facts or logic will not deter you from blaming him for COVID or even bad weather. Nothing you have to say on the subject can be accepted as unbiased. Seek help, especially after he gets re-elected and gets to appoint two more justices.

@HeWaits You continue to suffer from the inability to read and comprehend. I did not say that ALL comorbidities originate with covid, only that some of them do. Your continued disregard for the elderly and their welfare is noted, along with your glee that it attacks primarily the elderly. Your complete disregard for the welfare of others suffering sub-lethal effects is also noted. One can only hope that your cavalier attitude does not result in you contracting covid and having to go through it as so many others have.

@windinhishair you’re being thick headed.do you not understand that a 78 year-old with cancer and COPD does not die of Covid even if she contracts it? She was killed by the cancer or the COPD, both far more serious than a virus many people contract without even knowing it.

Name one or two co-morbidities caused by Covid. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

@HeWaits You're being deliberately obtuse. I'm not going to post any more on this because you are not understanding it. Let's let Johns Hopkins weigh in on your questions, shall we?

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/09/01/comorbidities-and-coronavirus-deaths-cdc/

On the seriousness of a virus that many people contract without even knowing it. (oh and by the way, the people who don't know they have it aren't the people dying.) That should be obvious, but maybe not to you.

[quote]The report has sparked confusion on the topic and some misleading narratives on social media, but Johns Hopkins epidemiologist Justin Lessler emphasizes that these findings are not surprising. COVID-19 deaths are not easy to predict or prevent based on comorbidities, he says, and [b]the virus is not only a concern for those with medical problems[/b].[/quote]

On people with comorbidities like your 78-year old woman who die of covid-19, and have it listed on their death certificate.

[quote]The importance of this CDC data is showing the comorbidities in people who have died with COVID-19, in hopes of better understanding the risk factors for death. For almost everyone, I think [b]we can be confident they would have lived longer without COVID-19[/b].[/quote]

On comorbidities caused by the coronavirus.

[quote]But it's important to understand that [b]some of the comorbidities listed[/b] are actually [b]downstream effects of COVID-19—meaning they are symptoms[/b]. [b]For example, respiratory failure[/b]. Someone could have on their death certificate that they died of both COVID and respiratory failure, but that probably means that COVID-19 caused the respiratory failure, which caused them to die. It's impossible for us to know the individual scenarios from death certificates, but the prevalence of respiratory factors [in the CDC findings] are consistent with being downstream conditions.[/quote]

[quote]To some extent I think some people are willfully misinterpreting to treat this as a "gotcha" moment to undermine the seriousness of COVID-19. They're not taking time to actually understand the data.[/quote]

On confirmation of the level of coronavirus deaths in the US.

[quote]We can observe trends from the number of deaths reported each year, on a weekly basis. When we see large deviations in the numbers for a time period, we call that excess deaths. Looking at 2020 since March, the raw number of excess deaths is 200,000 more people than a normal year. When we try to understand that, COVID-19 is the most rational and likely explanation. If you don't believe it's COVID-19, try to pinpoint why this year has been so different than any other. Why would a new disease that kills people not be the cause?[/quote]

The bottom line is that covid-19 kills, and continues to kill, and the number of deaths reported on death certificates tracks with the number of excess deaths reported in the US, as one would expect if the cause was the virus.

Be safe and stay healthy. The second round is coming and it will be much worse than what we've seen to date.

@windinhishair So you can’t, despite your repeated claims, name a single co-morbidity caused by Covid other than some mysterious “respiratory failure” which describes Covid itself.

You don’t want to continue this because you’ve been caught out making unsupportable claims.

@HeWaits Respiratory failure, as stated above. Try reading before you post. There is a whole paragraph on it.

@windinhishair I read it and referenced it in my reply. Did you not read my reply? Respiratory failure actually could be a catch-all all sorts of things such as drowning, strangulation, suffocation, smoke-inhalation and even hanging.

Try again.,

@HeWaits The CDC and Johns Hopkins list it as a co-morbidity. That you refuse to accept it is immaterial to reality. You're impervious to fact and deliberately obtuse. I would say try again, but it obviously would be futile. Goodbye and have a nice day.

@windinhishair And you live in a little world where this influenza hasn’t been politicized. You found a general catch-all term called a co-morbidity and you desperately cling to it to feed your brainless TDS. let’s talk again after Trump crushes the democrats and we get a full. Republican congress for at least four more years and perhaps three more SCOTUS picks.