Conservative protesters protested the Portland protesters, 3 weeks in a row, the peaceful Portland protesters murdered one, will there be revenge?

@Burnley123 "extremely violent white nationalist" Who have they killed then ?

@Johnson212 A few people. Example follows:


He stabbed to death two men on a train who were trying to defend his knife attack on two Muslim teenaged girls. What a hero.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3687054/portland-stabbing-latest-suspect-jeremy-joseph-christian-in-court-charged-with-murder/

@Burnley123 Apparently you are doing some kind of word association here, you are connecting Patriot Payer with Christians and connecting Christians with someone named Christian who attacked some people. The guy murdered was a supporter of Patriot Prayer, there is no evidence that he is an extremely violent white nationalist nor is there evidence that the group Patriot Prayer is an extremely violent white nationalist organization.

Jeremy Joseph Christian is a dirt bag criminal who is a self proclaimed white nationalist but his attack was 3 years ago and had nothing to do with what is going on in Portland now or with either of the groups you mentioned.

@Johnson212 What about Kyle Rittenhouse?

Also, the guy in charge of Patriot Prayer says they're not a religious group. He claims that their members include "an atheist" and "a transsexual." Presumably two different people.

@Burnley123 You missed the point...Read too much into it...Business and people are leaving...The city is in the early stages of decay...Thats it!

@Sierra25 That's simply not happening in Portland or Seattle.

@Burnley123 The teen who was attacked was neither in Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer. He was a supporter of Patriot Prayer which is not an extremely violent white nationalist group. You are just trying to stir the pot mixing a little truth with falsehoods hoping something will stick.

@Johnson212 Its true he was nit a member but was a supporter.patriot prayer are themselves violent though as are the ptoud boys.

@Johnson212 https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/08/31/what-we-know-about-patriot-prayer

@Burnley123 There you go again making up links, you take a little truth and mix it with falsities and you can paint someone any color you want. All the SPL said about Patriot Prayer is that some other bad people came to the rally, isn't that exactly what has happened with the other side in portlant, BLM shows up and next thing you know you have Antifa and others doing violence and property destruction. So by your logic Black Lives Matter peoples are arsonist.

@Johnson212 i conceded that his was a supporter not a member and tbh I got that one wrong. Guilt by association isn't enough as your example about all blm people being called an arsonist demonstrates. Fair point.

The Patriot Prayer article does have quotes and evidence of violent behaviour though. They are violent and not just defensively.

@Burnley123 My main issue is that the police let a caravan of armed vigilantes into an area where a protest was going on. There's a known history of the Portland police coordinating with right wing groups. I assume this is because these groups are in effect doing the cops' work for them, not arresting people but definitely fighting and causing other damage.

@LeopoldBloom Kind of makes sense don't you think. The do nothing democrat DA won't prosecute these people when they are arrested at these protests/riots, it got so bad that the other day when Portland requested from surrounding jurisdictions more policem, other law enforcement agencies refused to send their officers to help because if their officers are attacked the local DA won't prosecute. No wonder the police are friendly with right wing groups, Portland won't let Trump send help even though he has offered, they can't get help from their neighbors because of their own non-actions against criminals so who are they left with. These entitled little snot nosed antifa loving degenerates made the police their enemy and you how the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

@Johnson212 What you're leaving out is that the "destruction" in Portland has been greatly exaggerated by right-wing media. When Twitler sent in federal goons, all they did was make things worse. The images of lily-white grandmas being dragged off by mercenaries didn't look good either.

Remember when the Bundy thugs violently occupied a federal building (and trashed it, according to people I know who live there)? Should Obama have sent federal troops in to obliterate them? Of course not. He waited until they ran out of beef jerky and Ding Dongs, and left on their own.

@LeopoldBloom Oh please, that comparison is not even close. They were in a wildlife refuge and got into a National Wildlife Refuge building in an area with no population. These people took over a city and interfered with peoples livelihoods. The Portland Business Alliance estimates they have lost 4 million in actual property damage and 18 million in lost revenue.

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VS Portland

@Johnson212 It was a fucking federal building, so the taxpayers picked up the tab for damages. You're welcome.

The damage in Portland was limited to a few blocks. Stop with the pearl-clutching. And now we're learning that most of the violence was from right-wing gangs and people with no connection to BLM.

@LeopoldBloom You don't have to worry about any Trump supporters taking revenge on the murder of the Trump supporter in Portland, he was shot dead. Michael Forest Reinoehl was identified and arrest warrants issued, the BLM supporting Antifa member claimed self defense before pulling a gun on the US Marshals coming to arrest him.

@Johnson212 Interesting how the cops executed him, but Kyle Rittenhouse was treated with kid gloves.

I wasn't worried about any Trump cult members taking revenge on Reinoehl. I'm more concerned about them going apeshit after the election if Trump loses.

@LeopoldBloom Cause he pulled a gun on US Marshals and Rittenhouse did not resist arrest. Amazing how that works.

@Johnson212 Rittenhouse almost had to beg to be arrested. If this had been in the pre-video era, he'd still be a free "man" today.

@LeopoldBloom That is cause he is not guilty and was only arrested because of a Antifa friendly Democratic DA trying to appease the Antifa BLM mob.

@Johnson212 He murdered two people and injured a third while illegally carrying a firearm. He's not innocent just because you agree with him politically.

@LeopoldBloom No, he has only been accused by a politically motivated DA, they got to get it past a grand jury which will probably happen because you know what they say, a district attorney could indite a ham sandwich, but then the have to put it in front of a jury, that will be when he is set free the innocent self defense person he is.

@Johnson212 It's not like nothing happened here. When Rittenhouse fired his first shot, he was in no danger, so he has no defense for that. You can't shoot people just because they're yelling at you and you're afraid of them. His murder of the guy with the skateboard was presumably self-defense, but since Rittenhouse had already shot and killed someone else by then, the skateboard guy could be presented as attempting a citizen's arrest. If someone starts shooting, you're allowed to attack them to get them to stop. This is the whole "good guy with a gun" argument, although in this case, the "good guy" had a skateboard. If he'd had a gun, Rittenhouse would probably be dead now.

But if Rittenhouse has a good enough attorney, he could get off the same way O.J. Simpson did. Especially if it's an all-white jury, and they're selected for hostility toward BLM.

@LeopoldBloom "It's not like nothing happened here. When Rittenhouse fired his first shot, he was in no danger"

How do you know that ? I have not seen that fact in evidence. What do you base it on ?

Kyle's story is that he proceeded towards the mechanic’s shop, he was accosted by multiple rioters who recognized that he had been attempting to protect a business the mob wanted to destroy. This outraged the rioters and created a mob now determined to hurt Kyle. They began chasing him down. Kyle attempted to get away, but he could not do so quickly enough. Upon the sound of a gunshot behind him, Kyle turned and was immediately faced with an attacker lunging towards him and reaching for his rifle. He reacted instantaneously and justifiably with his weapon to protect himself, firing and striking the attacker.

Kyle stopped to ensure care for the wounded attacker but faced a growing mob gesturing towards him. He realized he needed to flee for his safety and his survival. Another attacker struck Kyle from behind as he fled down the street. Kyle turned as the mob pressed in on him and he fell to the ground. One attacker kicked Kyle on the ground while he was on the ground. Yet another bashed him over the head with a skateboard. Several rioters tried to disarm Kyle. In fear for his life and concerned the crowd would either continue to shoot at him or even use his own weapon against him, Kyle had no choice but to fire multiple rounds towards his immediate attackers, striking two, including one armed attacker. The rest of the mob began to disperse upon hearing the additional gunshots.

Kyle got up and continued down the street in the direction of police with his hands in the air. He attempted to contact multiple police officers, but they were more concerned with the wounded attackers. The police did not take Kyle into custody at that time, but instead they indicated he should keep moving. He fully cooperated, both then and later that night when he turned himself in to the police in his hometown, Antioch, Illinois.

Kyle did nothing wrong. He exercised his God-given, Constitutional, common law and statutory law right to self-defense.

You say different, how do you know that he had no defense for his first shot ?

As for getting off like OJ, OJ played the race card and got off that is not an option for Kyle.