real full footage of george floyd. police cam. the real scenario was different as media shows.

@kramjj Statistically speaking though, the fact the cops were called in the first place often has to do with race and class.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow the systemic argument. I highly doubt someone running a store is going to let someone use a counterfeit bill or forged check (I forget what it was in this case) if they are white. I'm highly skeptical of that accuracy of such data collection. How would you even go about collecting those stats in anything close to scientific?

@kramjj It is a fact. Statistically speaking a black or person of color is going to be profiled the moment they walk in and they are far more likely to be looking for something nefarious to start with. So yes absolutely it matters. This is not hypothetical. Also the consequences are different. It has been proven for example blacks and whites smoke marijuana at identical rates but blacks are arrests and incarceration is way higher for exactly the same thing and the sentences much longer. Statistically speaking if the guy was a white guy who looked middle class they probably would not have even checked the bill in the first place.

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@kramjj Statistically speaking though, the fact the cops were called in the first place often has to do with race and class.[/quote]

The store owner who called the cops was Arabic. Arabic people could be racist but he said in the video it wasn't just one 20, they had a few.

Maybe they got them from a friend and didn't know it or someone else in the hood had floated counterfeits but he almost certainly called the cops out of genuine concern.

@SatanBurger Even if that is the case. I find it hard to believe that if this happened in an affluent white suburb and the driver was white that it would have immediately escalated to sticking a gun in their face before the person is even given a chance to comply. Here in Canada those cops would have been fired and would be lucky to escape excessive force charges even if Floyd had not been harmed.

@SatanBurger Like I said in my post on the subject. If you are not sure if you are watching an arrest or a carjacking that is a problem.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Yeah I get it, the cop was aggressive for just a counterfeit.

@SatanBurger It was definitely excessive beyond all reason. This is the kind of response appropriate for a raid on an organized crime counterfeit operation or money laundering operation not for some random guy who passed a fake 20 who may not have even been aware it was fake.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I get that, most cops would have just asked him to roll down the window. But the cop didn't give him a reason and was just going to put him into the back of a cop car.