When Trump eeks out a victory with voter suppression and the Electoral College:

For Trump to win, again, without winning the most votes would shatter whatever remaining faith millions of Americans have in the political system. Our simmering legitimacy crisis would almost certainly heat to a boil. After such an outcome, how could you say this was a democracy? How could you say, if you prefer the terminology of the 18th century instead, that this was a republic? --Jamelle Bouie

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

I think winning the we electoral college without the popular vote would be fair, as in within the rules. People can disagree with the electoral college system.

I think the voter suppression you have in America is a scandal though.

SW-User

@Burnley123 Seriously, I think the only way that Trump can win now is to steal the election. I'm pretty sure he's going to suggest that his base refuse to vote because the mail-in voting is rigged by the Chinese, thereby delegitimising the vote and forcing the Democrats to seek a rerun at a more "convenient" time.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SW-User I think you are right on the first point. I think he will challenge the legitimacy if he loses. Well, I know he will.

SW-User

@Burnley123 There is still a real problem. It doesn't matter how badly he loses, if he can convince the various Republican administrations in the swing states (and maybe others) that the election has been stolen from him, they can simply refuse to allocate their electoral votes to Biden, then neither side will probably have enough to win. And failing that, he can ensure he can drag the process on in the courts for weeks, if not months, while doing as much damage as he can with executive orders.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SW-User I think a mess like that will definately happen if its close. If its not close, the rest if his party will disown him but his hard-core base will still insist that its fixed and riot. Right wing terrorism will rise with Trump out if office.

RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M

@Burnley123 'I think he will challenge the legitimacy if he loses.'

His niece Mary , who just wrote the book , had a good take on it. She was explaining how his narcissism disallowed him from thinking that he would lose because of his unpopularity. Hence we know see him laying the ground to explain away any defeat as a conspiracy against him.

'I wuz robbed' 'It's so unfair ' ...... blah blah blah.