Do statues tell us anything about history?

@Invocations This is why I was so mad that Ukrainians took down their thousand or so Lenin statues. The nerve on those curs!

@QuixoticSoul Well I’m looking at it from a purely artistic perspective. As I said further it’s all propaganda and it should be illegal to force people to look upon any statue of any person in a public place or change city names to people etc. Put them in museums - dedicate the museum to people who have suffered - but don’t destroy art.

Should we Derry all the great sculptures done by the Greeks who enslaved all they could? Come on man.

@Invocations There actually isn't all that much artistic significance in much of this sort of public art. It's generally commodity product - like these:



As for the Greeks (who we generally judge by the standards of their contemporaries, and confederates were already reviled by theirs) - after a couple of thousand years even the most trivial shit becomes historically important. A lot of the stuff we keep in museums is less about the artistic impact, and more simply because it's really old and that's interesting in itself.

Museums, including private ones are actually the general destinations of these statues already. They are usually removed, not destroyed.

@QuixoticSoul Hence me saying stop with all propaganda art in public places including place names. However saying that a bronze sculpture that takes a lot of skill to produce is of little artistic significance is relative to perceptions that are currently had. As is right that museums should preserve it. Regardless of how insignificant the current populace thinks it’s is.

@Invocations Public art has its place - but the thing about public art aside from its generally derivative nature is that it [i]changes[/i]. If a city wants to change things up, that's fine, they should. Nothing wrong with celebrating people either - or changing the ones we celebrate.

@QuixoticSoul sure. As long as it’s not propaganda.