Do statues tell us anything about history?

@Snowvixen Actually, that’s the point, isn’t it ? Pulling down the statues doesn’t [b]mean[/b] erasing the history of people who profited from owning other human beings.
It just means not [b]celebrating[/b] it anymore.

@bijouxbroussard Meh, I don't see it as celebrating. 🤷‍♀️ Besides where does it stop? Who makes the rules about who to celebrate and who not to? Seems subjective and a slippery slope.

@Snowvixen They [b]are[/b] being celebrated as heroes. That’s why their statues are in public. Nobody has statues of Hitler or Mussolini displayed. Nobody who committed what we now [b]know[/b] to be human rights violations should be celebrated. It’s very straightforward. They don’t have to be forgotten—but [b]that’s[/b] why we have museums.

@Snowvixen Put it in a Museum of Crimes Against Humanity.

@bijouxbroussard But somewhere down the road its gonna be "Why are we celebrating these people by having them in a museum?!" Like I said its a slippery slope. 🤷‍♀️ @SmartKat

@Snowvixen Apparently you’re not familiar with the Holocaust museum or The Legacy Museum (with relics of slavery). Neither are [b]celebratory[/b]. They exist to teach and remind people of the heritage of hatred that humanity needs to overcome. That is the type of museum where Confederate memorabilia belongs.

@bijouxbroussard I know of those actually but the rate we going someone down the line is gonna say we don't need those. 🤷‍♀️

@Snowvixen Nobody has ever mentioned banning museums. In fact, we need more museums and more booksm

Its like saying banning drinking bleach is a slippery slope to banning medicine. It doesnt relate.

@Burnley123 🤔It does actually, especially in this decade.At least for me. There is always going to be people who insist that those same museums need to be banned. Like I said, the rate we going there is going to be more "this and that need to be banned." So, where does it stop?

@Snowvixen When that happens (which wont) we would fight the banning of them.

Our argument here is explicit about why statues and museums are different.

@Burnley123 Both symbolize history to me, regardless of location which is why I have that argument. But that's just my opinion. 🤷‍♀️

@Snowvixen Where has there been a call for banning museums that was legitimate ?

@bijouxbroussard 🤔 You really think its gonna stop at statues? I don't think so. 🤷‍♀️

@Snowvixen Presumably you are in favour of banning some things (murder and paedophillia). When will that stop?

If you want to ban things that are bad then its a slippery slope to banning things that are good. So the answer is to not ban anything in case someday sonewhere down the line sonebody else goes too far...

@Burnley123 🤦‍♀️ Crimes have existed from the dawn of time sadly. So not sure how anyone could ban that shit, although it should be.

Its a slippery slope when something is subjective. One person is gonna say ban it, the next will say no. It creates more division, which we have bloody enough of. Which at this time is the last thing we need no? Meh. Take it as you will.

@Snowvixen You really are spectacularly missing the point here. Oh well.

@Burnley123 🤷‍♀️ Meh.

@Snowvixen So you would leave things as is ? That’s hardly a solution.

@bijouxbroussard Rome was not built in a night, nor was it built solely by one person. The destruction of statues is only the beginning, if you don't think so that is an problem. Who gets to say what statues are acceptable and which aren't? I mean to me its like the book burning that took place in the Middle Ages and even before then.

@Snowvixen And ultimately it was decided that books belongEd in the [b]library[/b]. Comparable to putting these relics in a [b]museum[/b]. Nobody worried that libraries would be torn down. Things are going to change, whether you like it not.

@bijouxbroussard Some libraries were destroyed because of the books they held, and a lot of relics never made it to an museum because of opposing beliefs. Change is not the issue.

@Snowvixen Change is the [b]entire[/b] issue. We need to stop celebrating racism.

@bijouxbroussard [b]For me[/b] it was not change that sparked my argument. 🧐

@Snowvixen I know, you argued that it wouldn’t erase history but that was not the idea to begin with. We do need to update our values. If we actually [b]mean[/b] that we no longer support racism and white supremacy our heroes need to reflect that.