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I'm Taking A Break From Feeling Shame For Being White This Weekend

June 6, 2020 is the 76th anniversary of D-Day - The Normandy landings were the landing operations and associated airborne operations on Tuesday, 6 June 1944 of the Allied invasion of Normandy in Operation Overlord during World War II. Codenamed Operation Neptune and often referred to as D-Day, it was the largest seaborne invasion in history.

Learning about this operation and some of the warriors that were part of it,
helps take my mind off the plight of persons today that don't feel properly appreciated.

The whole country pulled together. EVERYONE found ways they could help the country in the war effort. American ingenuity along with free market unleashed unheard of productivity to defeat our enemies.

Yeah, I think I'd rather think about how the greatest generation saved our country for us, so we could have a choice whether to burn it down today, or pull together again to save the country for our children.

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AbbeyRhode · F

I will never be bullied into feeling shame because of my skin color. Every one is responsible for their own actions, and no one else.

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Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@AbbeyRhode Every one is also a product of socialisation, something you as an individual have verry little impact on. This idea that individuals are just islands, is a myth.

AbbeyRhode · F

@Kwek00 Each person is free to reason, and choose what path to take. Everyone has the power to look around, learn, and choose to be a good person, and do what's right, or not.

TexChik · F

@AbbeyRhode any one that would attempt to do that is the real racist. I heard idiots were getting on their knees as directed by black racists to ask for forgiveness for their white privilege. This is just the go to thing the libs do when they get desperate...incite racism.

AbbeyRhode · F

@TexChik I saw that, unbelievable. Every time I think the brainwashed sheep can't get any more ridiculous, they prove me wrong.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@AbbeyRhode who are the brainwashed sheep?

And your remark to me, it all sounds super nice, just like a fairy tale. It just doesn't work like that.

AbbeyRhode · F

@Kwek00 Liberals who believe the stream of lies fed to them by the mainstream media.

How is it not true? Every human being on earth in in charge of their own life. They alone choose what kind of person to be, and what to do with their lives.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@AbbeyRhode Because that idea would suggest that everyone has equal opportunities. While everyone is diffrent in their capacity and every human actor that person interacts with has inherent biasses and values. If you have the capacity to become the person you want to be and to face the challenges your choices bring to get where you want to be, you'll often be depended on others that will make choices for you which you can do little about.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Kwek00 [quote]If you have the capacity to become the person you want to be and to face the challenges your choices bring to get where you want to be, you'll often be depended on others that will make choices for you which you can do little about.[/quote]

If you are dependent on others, you don't have the capacity.
Although, there is still opportunity!
There's all kinds of opportunities for disabled people.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Budwick Some actions in your life require dependence Budwick.

If you want to apply for a job and you are with the final 3. And all 3 have proven that they can do the job. Well, at that point the board that has to make a descision starts a conversation. All 3 people are capable, but only 1 will get the job Budwick. And chances are in that conversation, that biasses conciously or unconciously will make a diffrence with the descision. Because we aren't computers, we have emotions, feelings, preferences, ... etc. Not everything we do is rational, if all 3 people were really equally you can always roll a dice to figure out who wins, but instead people often talk about how they feel about something.

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

[quote]"Some actions in your life require dependence Budwick." [/quote]

But putting your knee on a subdued prisoner's neck or deciding to loot and burn a store are not among them.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell Great interaction total random emo fairy 👍️

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

Great non-answer to the non-random point the emo fairy made. 🤭

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell My point wasn't random emo fairy. Just read the entire conversation.

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

Yet another non-answer by Kwekster. 🤭

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell What question do I need to answer?

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

What dependence on outside influences did the looters' and rioters' actions have, for example?

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell She made a general remark and I said it doesn't work like that.

If you want to go into details and individual cases, then you have to look at those. I also wonder why the cops legg suddenly fell off, it was here 4 messages ago.

And that's right smug little emo fairy, there was no question to answer. Because your random interaction wasn't talking about the general case, it was just a smug responds that wasn't on toppic so you can feel better about yourself at my expense.

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

And yet another characteristic non-answer by the Kwekster. 🤭

If you prefer to explain about the outside influences on the cop's leg, then by all means do so. What dependencies did the cop have?

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell I don't know the cop, so why would I talk about that? I'm already glad that we both think that what he did was criminal.

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

You don't know a lot of things, but the cop's actions were certainly NOT beyond his personal control, unlike that silly example you gave about whether someone might get a job or not.

Neither were the looters' and rioters' actions beyond their personal control, reluctant as you seem to be to admit it.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell Because they are two diffrent things. In your example a person makes a conciouss action with a direct consequence. And in my example, an other party has to make an evaluation which will have consequences.

I agree that all 3 made a choice in your example, it's their own choice.

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

Of course there are many things in life we cannot directly control; the best we can do in those cases is to try to maximize our chances of a favorable outcome.

I'm glad you finally agree. I don't know why it had to be like pulling teeth.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell You only asked the question 2 messages ago. You don't even present your message as a question, it's just a comment. But since we agree, do we then also agree on my first comment:

[quote]Every one is also a product of socialisation, something you as an individual have verry little impact on.[/quote]

Thinkerbell · 41-45, F

@Kwek00

[quote]"You only asked the question 2 messages ago. You don't even present your message as a question, it's just a comment."[/quote]

I'll remember in the future that even the slightest subtlety will probably be lost on you.
[quote]
"Every one is also a product of socialisation, something you as an individual have verry little impact on."[/quote]

This is a truism, and of course an intelligent person should be able to think one step beyond what his socialization (indoctrination?) might be telling him.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Thinkerbell How is a person going to do that?

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