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I don't believe all lives matter,If all lives matter why are people for abortion?

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Cierzo · M
All lives matter sounds really humanitarian, but it is a lie. Do we really matter if we hear of an accident happening miles away from our home?
To those who are pro-choice, it is obvious that not all lives matter. The same thing happens with Black Lives Matter. To them only blacks matter. Fine. But then it should be totally fine too that a White Lives Matter or Police lives Matter exists
Pfuzylogic · M
@Coerzo BlackLivesMatter came first and the leaders came there involuntary. Look at the title to mean BlackLivesMatter and the police treat them as if they don't. Too much innocent lost because the Blue just doesn't see the reason to treat people as if they have civil rights.
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: Coming first is not a reason to be the only 'X lives matter' with a right to stuff.About leaders coming there involuntarily, if there was a serious investigation on who is behind them, it would turn up that it is not so spontaneous
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: The people that created BlackLivesMatter came into existence because of police murders. They now wear body cameras because they couldn't be trusted.
BlueLivesMatter is not an organization unless by default you make all police members.
AllLivesMatter is not an organization. It is just a "pretty" thought that is just a pathetic hashtag.
Cierzo · M
I agree with the last part.
And think that if an organisation called BlueLiveMatters or WhiteliveMatters were created, it is totally fair, supporting BLM and denying them the right to exist would be utter hypocrisy.
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: Best to work with reality BlueLives is suppose to exist and WhiteLivesMatter does no exist. Why piggyback on a real movement then to dodge the real racism motivating it.
Are you from Spain?
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: Yes.
In our media they tell only when a white policeman kills an unarmed black man, but it does not mean the rest of combinations do not happen. They focus on the one who suit their agenda
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: Then you are creating news from no source at all. That is the current problem that has been happening a long time whether you believe it or not. The innocents that are killed are innocent black lives. The system here is broke down and police need to be retrained to respect civil rights. They are over profiling and killing Black men way too quickly. It is to the point that their word can not be trustees and they must wear body cameras. They should take the tasers away from them too.
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: I have read statistic about police brutality in the US. The number of white people killed by policemen is very high too. And so is the number of killed policemen. Apparently they feel more threatened and are more prone to pull the trigger if they have the least suspect the person who are trying to arrest is carrying a gun.
It is a circle that is very hard to break. But the problem is violence as a whole, not racism. Some media and politicians may be tempted to disguise it as racism because it suits their agenda of creating 'privileged' and 'victim' groups to divide society
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: Let me underline this so that you understand the IS society. There is a problem with the police.

The statistics you see have nothing to do with the innocence of the victims.

It is sad that police get killed doing their job.
The American news coverage highlights when injustice is done. Surely you have seen the legal major protests.
When Hillary gets elected in then it will be taken care of but for now it is and still remains a big problem.
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: Is police the problem, or is it a part of the problem, and the real problem is violence?
And when I say violence I mean a very extended belief, much more extended that in other societies, that violence is the solution, and carrying a gun will get you out of trouble, instead of getting you into it.
Pfuzylogic · M
The recognized issue for the death of innocent black men and women and children has been the violation of the civil rights by police.
Cierzo · M
Recognized by whom?
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: The mayors of the LEA and the news media reporting the violations. The police in the US are public servants by definition. They don't define the law..
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: The news media...that's the problem. They all tell lies or half truths to support an agenda.
I guess the only ones who know the truth are the policemen. They know in which circumstances patrol. The rest of us, including you and me, only get second-hand biased information
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: Rhat is the essence of the problem. The police can not be trusted to look after their own. The body cameras are a testament to that. The police answer to the people and not themselves. It doesn't work.
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: And nobody wonders about the cause why this happens? Saying police is racist is too easy.
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: There is institutional racism involved. The DOJ is already involved with Chicago, Oakland , Baltimore...They are violating civil rights of citizens.
Cierzo · M
@Pfuzylogic: So they are investigating racism, not police violence as a whole, nor the many policemen killed every year? What rocks the government boat, I see.
Pfuzylogic · M
@Cierzo: The Department of Justice is doing a competent job.