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Northwest · M
The stupid people will respond along political people.
The rational people, will tell you that the stay at home orders, should be lifted, when the conditions are right, and this means the following:
1. Businesses are able to implement proper "distancing", and "protection" measures, to prevent further infection/spread.
2. Schools and other public venues, are able to do the same as #1.
3. When a testing strategy is in place, allowing #1 and #2 to happen.
This buys us enough time, for a (hopefully) vaccine to be developed and produced.
The rational people, will tell you that the stay at home orders, should be lifted, when the conditions are right, and this means the following:
1. Businesses are able to implement proper "distancing", and "protection" measures, to prevent further infection/spread.
2. Schools and other public venues, are able to do the same as #1.
3. When a testing strategy is in place, allowing #1 and #2 to happen.
This buys us enough time, for a (hopefully) vaccine to be developed and produced.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@TexChik It boggles the mind that you'd try to compare these three vastly different situations lmao.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
@Northwest What's with the quotes?
I mean, Inslee has handled this pretty well up until now. Though, he's failed to fully acknowledge that Western Washington isn't as densely packed as other metropolitan areas of the country. Nor has he fully acknowledged that he couldn't have done this without the support of the big bad ugly capitalists in this area.
We need a plan. Not politics.
I mean, Inslee has handled this pretty well up until now. Though, he's failed to fully acknowledge that Western Washington isn't as densely packed as other metropolitan areas of the country. Nor has he fully acknowledged that he couldn't have done this without the support of the big bad ugly capitalists in this area.
We need a plan. Not politics.
Northwest · M
@TexChik [quote]oh please ... there’s no vaccine for HIV after 30 years ... its killed 40 million . No descent vaccine for the seasonal flue which kills an average of 40-60 K Americans every year[/quote]
OK, I will try, not because you will try to understand, but for other people's benefit.
There are currently two late-stage, multinational clinical trials for the bokodo and Mosaico vaccines. The fact is , over the past 3-4 decades, we've been busy merging the worlds of the microbiology and computing, and what we can do today, was not even conceivable 3 decades ago. bokodo and Mosaico are examples.
It killed 40 Million people? There are two possibilities for where that figure came from: 1) your ass; 2) thin air. The actual number is less than 800K. In fact, if you live in a Western country, and you developed HIV after 2000, you will still be alive, and on a drug regimen that prevents fatal, or even uncomfortable symptoms. Third world countries, where these drugs are not available, fare differently.
The Flu? Don't look now, but there are vaccines for many types of the Flu. The trick is get vaccinated for the right type of Flu.
Anything else you would like to be wrong about? I would tell you a little more about the science, but it would be a waste of both our times.
OK, I will try, not because you will try to understand, but for other people's benefit.
There are currently two late-stage, multinational clinical trials for the bokodo and Mosaico vaccines. The fact is , over the past 3-4 decades, we've been busy merging the worlds of the microbiology and computing, and what we can do today, was not even conceivable 3 decades ago. bokodo and Mosaico are examples.
It killed 40 Million people? There are two possibilities for where that figure came from: 1) your ass; 2) thin air. The actual number is less than 800K. In fact, if you live in a Western country, and you developed HIV after 2000, you will still be alive, and on a drug regimen that prevents fatal, or even uncomfortable symptoms. Third world countries, where these drugs are not available, fare differently.
The Flu? Don't look now, but there are vaccines for many types of the Flu. The trick is get vaccinated for the right type of Flu.
Anything else you would like to be wrong about? I would tell you a little more about the science, but it would be a waste of both our times.
Northwest · M
@JoeyFoxx
[quote]What's with the quotes?[/quote]
Trying to be accurate.
[quote]I mean, Inslee has handled this pretty well up until now. [/quote]
I did not mention Inslee. My response was general purpose. While I live in Washington State, this crisis is both a national and international disaster and I did not want to make it about our corner of the world. As in, my comment is not about politics, and I thought I was clear about that.
[quote]Though, he's failed to fully acknowledge that Western Washington isn't as densely packed as other metropolitan areas of the country. [/quote]
Not sure why you bring this up. It is not even remotely related to anything I wrote in my comment, or to any statement by Governor Inslee that I am aware of. Snohomish County, one of the hardest hit counties, is pretty much rural, and while we stabilized in the "dense" areas, the rise in infection is in rural Washington.
[quote]Nor has he fully acknowledged that he couldn't have done this without the support of [b][i][u]the big bad ugly capitalists[/u][/i][/b] in this area.[/quote]
Do you have a reason to believe, he is against capitalism, or that he has ever addressed any of the local businesses, as big, bad or ugly capitalists?
I am a byproduct of the "big bad ugly tech capitalism" of the Seattle area, and the relationship between the Governor's office (the last 5), has been anything but cooperative. The Governor's office, holds regular calls, with business leaders, to coordinate, and he discusses it in his press conferences, and reports on it, on his web site.
As a local, I am impressed with how the local business community, with the notable exception of Jeff Bezos, has come together, and set politics aside, to provide solutions.
[quote]We need a plan. Not politics.[/quote]
I was under the impression that my comment did not address politics, and points 1, 2 and 3 are not political.
[quote]What's with the quotes?[/quote]
Trying to be accurate.
[quote]I mean, Inslee has handled this pretty well up until now. [/quote]
I did not mention Inslee. My response was general purpose. While I live in Washington State, this crisis is both a national and international disaster and I did not want to make it about our corner of the world. As in, my comment is not about politics, and I thought I was clear about that.
[quote]Though, he's failed to fully acknowledge that Western Washington isn't as densely packed as other metropolitan areas of the country. [/quote]
Not sure why you bring this up. It is not even remotely related to anything I wrote in my comment, or to any statement by Governor Inslee that I am aware of. Snohomish County, one of the hardest hit counties, is pretty much rural, and while we stabilized in the "dense" areas, the rise in infection is in rural Washington.
[quote]Nor has he fully acknowledged that he couldn't have done this without the support of [b][i][u]the big bad ugly capitalists[/u][/i][/b] in this area.[/quote]
Do you have a reason to believe, he is against capitalism, or that he has ever addressed any of the local businesses, as big, bad or ugly capitalists?
I am a byproduct of the "big bad ugly tech capitalism" of the Seattle area, and the relationship between the Governor's office (the last 5), has been anything but cooperative. The Governor's office, holds regular calls, with business leaders, to coordinate, and he discusses it in his press conferences, and reports on it, on his web site.
As a local, I am impressed with how the local business community, with the notable exception of Jeff Bezos, has come together, and set politics aside, to provide solutions.
[quote]We need a plan. Not politics.[/quote]
I was under the impression that my comment did not address politics, and points 1, 2 and 3 are not political.