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Covid19 - Made In China

I think it was in the mid-60's when I first noticed Americans become willing to compromise - willing to accept lesser quality for lower prices.

It may have been K-Mart that brought the first assault on quality. Crappy merchandise, just enough employees to stock shelves and with zero knowledge to assist shoppers. The downtown department stores suffered, downsized or just closed forever.

And so it continued. Manufacturers responded to the market and many left the USA to foreign countries where the government policies produced workers willing to provide labor at a fraction of what they were used to paying. Even though their quality suffered, customers is the USA - the worlds largest consumer group, were still willing to accept crap for their hard earned money.

I have no axe to grind with the Chinese people - none. It's the Chinese Communist Party at fault. Just like any leftist government, the CCP controls everything. And, it's gotten worse as time passed. And now, the CCP has dropped covid19 on all of us. Killed hundreds of thousands of people and maybe just maybe the real target - destroyed world economies.

With that as the backdrop, my question is this - from this point forward, will you be more aware and less likely to buy ANYTHING Made In China? Will you opt to spend a little more for higher quality? And maybe most importantly, avoid helping to fund the CCP?
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Lee124 · F
I try not to but most everything nowadays is "made in China", which sucks. I have a big problem with their quality as well.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Lee124 I'm glad you're looking!
Lee124 · F
@Budwick yep for a while now. Too many bad experiences.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Lee124 Me too.
I got suckered into crappy tools and hardware most I think.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Lee124 China will do quality just fine - if you pay for the associated level of QA. Witness Apple products.
Lee124 · F
@QuixoticSoul I suppose, although I can only speak of my own experiences with products often more than not being reliable.
Lee124 · F
@Budwick in my experience as well
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Lee124 Chinese manufacturers will make things to any standard of QA you pay them for. It just won’t be at rock bottom prices, which is what a lot of manufacturers got to China for - quality costs on any continent.
Lee124 · F
@QuixoticSoul not disputing. I do miss our country manufacturing their own goods. Quality was much better
@QuixoticSoul But how many factories are set up for a slower manufacturing process - where they can focus on quality. Of course they can make goods that equal to USA or Europe but - I am seeing more volume come out of that country, and volume sacrifices quality. Basically speaking-------
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Lee124 I’m ok with it tbh, because I don’t want to pay $2k for my phone - or $6k for my PC.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch You see everything. China manufactures a ton of low quality goods - and also a ton of high quality ones.
@QuixoticSoul IDK - I am not seeing the high quality ones - but I guess they are out there..
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Maybe so.
Does that excuse them from lying to the world about the virus?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick No, this is strictly a QA conversation. China should have been more forthright with the world. That’s only becoming more clear as time goes on.
@QuixoticSoul I would not piss and moan about this - because things happen - it could happen here - there - wherever - but China has a track record for this - lets list them, shall we ?
H1N1
H7N4
H5N6
H5N1
H3N2
H9N2
H6N1
H2N2 ( all Avian Flu Virus )
NOW COVID19

S.A.R.S.
Asian Flu

I won't even mention the tainted powdered baby formula or lead based paint for children's toys. I won't even mention child labor ( the kind they show us ) and the ones that are underground.

I mean - what's with that place ? What is the world doing to disinfect it - oops I might offend someone...I'll shut up now.....
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch [quote]H1N1[/quote]
That's from Kansas. The '09 variant - Mexico.
@QuixoticSoul I stand corrected then...
Budwick · 70-79, M
@MarmeeMarch Ouch! That big pile of truth had to hurt when it landed on Comrade Quixote!
@Budwick 🤷‍♂️
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick I'm well aware that China is a frequent source of pathogens. It has a lot of human/animal contact, and this is what happens.

The recipe for epidemics is pretty simple - dense population, human/animal contact, reliance on substance farming and bushmeat, etc. Right now, Asia and Africa are it.
@QuixoticSoul Why is India left out of the mix ? Why are we left out of the mix....We do the same things basically - but we also have monitoring. - We didnt at the turn of the century and things were horrible - if you haven't read The Jungle - might want to check into it..... The Jungle is still going on in places where they dont care much for food conditions....