Here We Go Again with Trump

He’s lost my support. I’ve gritted my teeth at some of his policies, and still decided to support him because there is no other option, but he’s gone too far with denaturalization of American Citizens. People who came here legally, have been tax paying citizens, some for many decades, or a lifetime, but now they can be stripped of their citizenship and deported for falling foul of the law, in some way. This is not right, and I can no longer support him.

I know I’ll get the Right wing haters, who will say, “you couldn’t be a real Trump supporter,” and the Leftists who will say, “I told you so,” but that doesn’t matter. To the conservatives (and I am one), I say that I’m not a sheep, and when I see authoritarianism like this, I’m done. To the Leftists, I would never support one of your crowd because of their authoritarian policies. It seems Left or Right, authoritarianism is the name of the game, no matter who is in power.

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Heartlander · 80-89, M

Denaturalization has been around for a long time. A quick check says the last was in 2010.

It's not done by executive order but by a legal process that runs through the courts and it's based on acts of fraud during immigration and the citizenship process. That is, people who lied when filling out the documents for immigration and citizenship. But while that may be the legal basis, it's usually preceded with other misdeeds.

It's most common use I believe was after WW2 when naturalized citizens were discovered to have been members of the Nazi SS or had committed war crimes. It was also popular when trying to get rid of "Mafia" type crime bosses.

Carissimi · 70-79, F

But they are changing, or adding something to it, like if a naturalized citizen gets in trouble with the law, for whatever, they can be denaturalized and deported. It’s never been like that before, and I’m against it. A citizen is a citizen. Imagine the slippery slope and the political weaponization that can come from this. It’s Trump’s administration making these changes. I fully supported him cleaning up illegal immigration because this is where the problem is, but he’s cracking down on legal immigration too, even preventing babies born abroad to U.S. citizens from becoming an automatic citizen. Even if born to a military family based abroad. I don’t agree with it. @Heartlander

Heartlander · 80-89, M

@Carissimi That's why we have a division of power. As we all remember from the Illian Gonzalez episode, the executive branch has considerable power over immigration. But not so over citizens without due process, and in this situation it would be out of his hands. Regardless of what he says, it really has no teeth.

I've never agreed 100% with any president. But while Trump mouths off about denaturalizing, the people on the other side of politics are demanding that the border be taken down, all illegals giving amnesty, and anyone who just walks across the border be given benefits and the right to vote.