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Should Democrat Leadership Be Punished ??

[b]Should Democrat Leadership Be Punished ??[/b]


Should Democrat Leadership Be Punished for perpetrating lies, making shit up, attempting to over turn the last election and interfere / meddle in the 2020 election?

Schiff's 'rock solid' evidence against Trump never surfaced. None of the 'witnesses' witnessed anything. All the real evidence points to the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong - yet the left persists. Obviously, their motivation has nothing to do with any wrong doing.

These false distractions have been the focal point for democrats and the media for three years now! The topic had a negative effect on America in many respects.

I don't know if it's a crime for politicians to lie - I suppose if it were, DC would be a ghost town. But, this rises to a level that in my opinion can not be ignored or allowed to happen again. In my opinion the people that put us through this mess need to be punished - severely.
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
That one should be jailed. Most of the rest, never elected for anything again.

monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson as I have asked before, without getting an answer, what do think he will be “jailed” for? What is the the charge? Dissent? Proving despite the obstruction that Trump did try to blackmail the Ukraine?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So far bringing three sets of false charges. @monte3
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
https://www.judicialwatch.org/petitions/help-hold-representative-adam-schiff-accountable/
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson dude! Read the phone call transcript! Listen to the televised hearings. Your boy DID exactly what Schiff and the Democrats said he did. You can say you don’t care, and I know you don’t, you can say it didn’t rise to the level of removing him from office, but he did what was presented. And the fact had to be brought forward.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Millions of dollars wasted and tens of thousands of hours wasted on Schiff’s wild goose chases that resulted in NOTHING. @monte3
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson yeah it did result in us knowing what Trump tried to do. Blackmail a foreign government for his own political gain. 🤷‍♂️ It was obvious going in that the Republicans Senate would not remove him, that was never reality; but showing that he was willing to put his intreats above the law was necessary.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
No democrat stunt has moved the polling. Period. @monte3
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson it wasn’t a stunt🤷‍♂️. Just the fact. And the only poll that matters is on November 3rd 2020. And the 42% or so of trump diehards will not be swayed by anything. I am convinced that it is authoritarianism that is wasted and provided by Trump. Hence your desire to accuse cnndnc of treason or saying Schiff should be arrested for showing what trump DID do. Not the way we work, at least so far.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Everyone gets it. You don’t care for the President. You’re entitled to your opinion. It’s not like I’m trying to dissuade you 😂😂😂 @monte3
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
@jackjjackson I think we need science to study these Liberals why they don't care about the truth and it's always about "Them" game
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson you are correct I don’t like Trump or the divisiveness, or the destruction of decency and truth that he represents. But I find it seriously dangerous when the “arrest the dissidents” stuff comes up. That is point the first. Point the second is that Schiff made his case! And you are correct that as Pompeo said “people don’t care about the Ukraine “ or most people and 98% of the people on your side. But truth should matter.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@FreestyleArt read my response to Jackjjacksonjr above. The main point is that truth does matter! Read the transcript, read the testimony.
And what in slip sliding hades shows that I am making this in anyway about me or some us.
(I could have been sarcastic and said also that “science” is not the strong suit on your side, but I am a nice guy). 😊
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Please rephrase it accurately. The truth thst matters is Monte’s truth. @monte3
monte3 · 70-79, M
No there IS truth that exists outside of ourselves. The transcript IS the transcript, not what you or I want it to be, there was an actual number of people at both Obama’s and Trump’s inaugurations. As unimportant to rational as that may be. One doesn’t get to present “alternative facts”@jackjjackson
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
The most relevant fact Monte is that you dislike the President. We all know it. Don’t try to pretendt you’re the ultimate arbiter of reality and non reality. @monte3
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson well actually on this thread the most relevant thing is your desire to arrest political opponents of your cult hero. 🤷‍♂️
I think “prevent” is a typo. But I am smart enough to figure out that you probably meant “present”. But that is exactly what I am trying not to do. And why Trump’s odd complete disregard for truth bothers me so much.

The idea that we each have the right to our own realities is insane, actually insane
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So you really think you’re the arbiter of facts for all. Quite grandiose even for you. . Not my thread BTW. I did suggest that of all the offenders Schiff is likely the worse and that when the results of the criminal investigation and indictments come out Schiff is a prime candidate for jail time. Despite his behavior and actions like criminal Schiff hadn’t laid a glove on the President except in the Monte fantasyland. @monte3
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson ok now we are sort of back on track! What do you imagine these “criminal investigations” to be about? What crimes do you imagine that he committed? Do you believe that pointing out that Trump is not above the law is or should be a crime?
And for the third time, at least, I think the facts are independent of each of us. I do, unlike you apparently, think that when we have a transcript and testimony about the background that it is important. And that trump ranting that the call was perfect does not make it perfect. Or is that enough for you? Kind of like Helsinki, Putin denies the interference so why would trump believe the evidence presented by his own intelligence services.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Everyone gets it. You don’t care for the President. The #metoo attacks on Kavanaugh were fine and there is nothing to see re the latest exposure of Biden funny business. @monte3
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson shall we get back on track? What do you imagine that the criminal investigations of Schiff will be about? What crime do you imagine? Is pointing out that the president broke the law and proving it against some law I am not familiar with?

To say I don’t care for trump is like saying the sun is warm. 😊
What about Kavanaugh? What about Biden? Seriously? What about joe McCarthy? That would be as relevant. Stay a bit on topic.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson you really are desperate to change the subject aren’t you? 😊.
But in answer to your wild “what about “ thing: we should be just as worried about Biden “funny business” as you were about grabbing pussy, Stormy Daniels, three ,arriGes etc etc. etc.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@monte3 [quote]What do you imagine that the criminal investigations of Schiff will be about? [/quote]

It's been suggested that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff could face “arrest for treason” over his statement about Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@Budwick ok jack🤣🤣. I assume you mean the deal where Schiff sarcasticly Exaggerates the number of times that trump asked Zelinsky to investigate Biden. When the Republican committee members also had the transcript in front of them. Seriously jack that is all you can come up with? It takes less than five minutes to read the thing! Sarcasism I
Like trump claimed he was using when he suggested taking disinfectant to cure Covid. So si sarcasm illegal?