Do you support Donald Trumps assassination of the Iran General? (I do)
Terrorists must be stopped. Put a line in the sand.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Soleimani was not really a terrorist except maybe by largely meaningless post-9/11 flavor of the term. He was mostly involved in proxy warfare - something quite different.
But yeah, the assassination was a good tactical move - it seized the initiative because otherwise we were just reacting and letting Iran dictate the terms of the situation.
I was pretty impressed with it, but watching the administration's attempts to communicate on the topic is making me suspect that Trump basically blundered into it. Worse, there is no real strategy for what comes after.
But yeah, the assassination was a good tactical move - it seized the initiative because otherwise we were just reacting and letting Iran dictate the terms of the situation.
I was pretty impressed with it, but watching the administration's attempts to communicate on the topic is making me suspect that Trump basically blundered into it. Worse, there is no real strategy for what comes after.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pitchblue I'd put that [i]he[/i] worked with us in the past, when it suited Iran's interest. He also worked against us - to a far greater extent than he helped.
When it comes down to it, Soleimani was a soldier working to further the interests of his country - interests that often go directly contrary to ours. That's a dangerous gig, and sometimes it gets you killed. Just how it goes.
But there are larger political consequences here, and many will shake out over time.
When it comes down to it, Soleimani was a soldier working to further the interests of his country - interests that often go directly contrary to ours. That's a dangerous gig, and sometimes it gets you killed. Just how it goes.
But there are larger political consequences here, and many will shake out over time.
@QuixoticSoul Expect Terrorist Attacks that Iran can deny. Exactly like Trump nothing is illegal if you can deny it.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pitchblue Deniable terrorism is pointless because the whole point of terrorism is to effect fear and change. If you don't know who to be afraid of... 🤷♂️
This is why terrorists always claim responsibility.
I don't actually expect terrorism - but intensifying proxy attacks against our military assets in the region are very possible.
This is why terrorists always claim responsibility.
I don't actually expect terrorism - but intensifying proxy attacks against our military assets in the region are very possible.
@QuixoticSoul Good point but he did just put way more pressure on the troops there now. If Iran wanted to kill hundreds of US soldiers they could have but they will bid their time until an opportunity comes up.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pitchblue Shit was already heating up so it's hard to say - and Iran's proxies have already killed hundreds of our soldiers in Iraq.
Doing it in a single missile strike from their territory, would, of course, be completely suicidal, so it's not exactly impressive that they didn't.
Doing it in a single missile strike from their territory, would, of course, be completely suicidal, so it's not exactly impressive that they didn't.
@QuixoticSoul Where are all these hundreds of soldiers they killed? The Trump admin keeps saying Americans, this whole thing started with one dead contractor.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Pitchblue In Iraq, during the bloodier years of the occupation - when Iranians directly trained and supplied shiite militias and ran operational control. This isn't a secret, and was never hidden.
[quote]Soleimani soon intervened more directly in Iraq, too, sending in Shi`a militias as proxies. Under his leadership, the Quds Force stood up a number of militias for the express purpose of attacking U.S. and allied troops. Collectively, these organizations were responsible for hundreds of coalition deaths. One of them, Asaib Ahl al-Haq (League of the Righteous), claimed more than 6,000 such attacks between its creation in 2006 and the U.S. withdrawal in 2011—an average of more than three per day, every day, for five years.
In 2006, at the height of the bloodshed in Iraq, Soleimani took a break from managing Asaib and its sister groups in order to supervise another Iranian proxy, Hezbollah, in its escalating war with Israel. During his absence, U.S. commanders in the Green Zone noted a sharp decline in casualties across the country. [b]Upon his return from Lebanon, Soleimani wrote to U.S. commanders, “I hope you have been enjoying the peace and quiet in Baghdad. I’ve been busy in Beirut!”[/b][/quote]
Soleimani had a long and productive career. He is a fascinating character, I recommend studying up.
[quote]Soleimani soon intervened more directly in Iraq, too, sending in Shi`a militias as proxies. Under his leadership, the Quds Force stood up a number of militias for the express purpose of attacking U.S. and allied troops. Collectively, these organizations were responsible for hundreds of coalition deaths. One of them, Asaib Ahl al-Haq (League of the Righteous), claimed more than 6,000 such attacks between its creation in 2006 and the U.S. withdrawal in 2011—an average of more than three per day, every day, for five years.
In 2006, at the height of the bloodshed in Iraq, Soleimani took a break from managing Asaib and its sister groups in order to supervise another Iranian proxy, Hezbollah, in its escalating war with Israel. During his absence, U.S. commanders in the Green Zone noted a sharp decline in casualties across the country. [b]Upon his return from Lebanon, Soleimani wrote to U.S. commanders, “I hope you have been enjoying the peace and quiet in Baghdad. I’ve been busy in Beirut!”[/b][/quote]
Soleimani had a long and productive career. He is a fascinating character, I recommend studying up.