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Isn't it funny how Britain decided to leave the EU to get more power

When they've actually lost it lol
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Abstraction · 61-69, M
Britain didn't decide to leave EU to get more power. You're making it sound rational.
It was more a clamour of misinformation, symbolism and nationalism that resulted in very raw logic built on emotions. Like any democratic decision nowadays.

My view, anyway.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Abstraction the British ppl castes their vote and decided to leave, wether that was on false information, it is for the individual to discern for themselves what serves them and what doesn't. They must take responsibility for themselves.
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@JovialPlutonian Agree. But democracy will struggle thrive in a climate of misinformation campaigns on social media and breakdown of traditional media into tribal voices. Whilst some responsibility sits with voters, other responsibility sits with governments to create a public space for rational debate. The average voter doesn't control media domination or lobbying by vested interests with paltry donations buying their influence.
GrayManOZ · 46-50, M
@JovialPlutonian The thing that gets me is that they had a referendum and voted to leave for goodness sake. in 2016. A referendum is very cut and dried. Since them the concepts have been thrashed out and sorted and dissected and analysed in nauseating detail. The population of the UK made their decision. The loosing side should just suck it up and shut up. I don't know if it will work or not, I hope and suspect it will.
A government should be elected by the people for the people. Not appointed by Grey powerbrokers.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Abstraction yes but the average voter does choice to have their beliefs dictated by outsiders to themselves, like I said they don't have their own minds.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@GrayManOZ the issue with the referendum result in my eyes is more that they majority was so small. It's understandable that ppl oppose it when the majority was so fractional.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Abstraction I don't know if you are aware of it , but as well as refusing to be interviewed by the BBC's pre-eminent political journalist Andrew Neill before the election , Johnson has also banned government ministers from going on the Today programme on Radio 4 (flagship daily political programme) and is even threatening to remove the BBC's funding by abolishing the licence fee.

What he appears to be doing is taking a leaf straight out of the Trump playbook and refusing to be held to account or subject himself to scrutiny by anyone who he considers to be less than friendly. Chilling.
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@JovialPlutonian In Finland (scandinavians stuck in snow seem to have nothing better to do than think about sensible policies) a few years ago created a campaign to help think critically about the media they receive, particularly in social media. Interesting that they have ended up with the opposite of the populist demagogues that have emerged, coincidentally since Russia and vested interests started manipulating social media.
And Rupert Murdoch - I'll be singing ding dong the witch is dead when he's gone - done more damage to democracy in my lifetime than anyone I know. Certainly in Australia.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@RodionRomanovitch yes and ppl have a problem with Corbyn. He's the only one defending us and we just condemn him for it.