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GrayManOZ · 46-50, M
Some thing to consider, I am an Australian living in Canberra. For those of us not in the public service or the machinery of Government Politics is a spectator sport akin to the Gladiatorial arena. I was recently (about 10 months ago) working closely with an ex-Senator from out Labor party. She came out with an interesting line that went something like this. "Governments of both sides have sign treaties, free trade agreements and given power away to Extra-governmental organizations. Then they find that they can't control the country.Go Figure". And she is still very much in the Labour camp.

This is a thought worthwhile keeping in mind when discussing BREXIT or any government.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@GrayManOZ And while at it, selling national assets and services to foreign companies and even countries at cut-price rates, while calling it "inward [sic] investment".
GrayManOZ · 46-50, M
@ArishMell Don't get me started grrrr. The globalists and Trans-nationalists have screwed our National Strategic security.

Mindful · 56-60, F
Don’t underestimate the power of marketing a lie
@JovialPlutonian https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/26/women-only-train-carriages-a-possibility-under-jeremy-corbyn

Jeremy Corbyn raises possibility of women-only train carriages

I want you to know...it's okay to cry. We're here to help you through your very difficult time. If you need to know any more about King Codpiece and the Labour party, you may contact me at the 'Crying Corbyn Campaign Compassionate Carers'.

I shall allow you to have the last word, now, on this thread and I hope it will bring you the much-needed comfort that you crave.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@EugenieLaBorgia lol my niece is more mature than you and she's 10 pmsl
@EugenieLaBorgia The CCCCC!!
Abstraction · 61-69, M
Britain didn't decide to leave EU to get more power. You're making it sound rational.
It was more a clamour of misinformation, symbolism and nationalism that resulted in very raw logic built on emotions. Like any democratic decision nowadays.

My view, anyway.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Abstraction I don't know if you are aware of it , but as well as refusing to be interviewed by the BBC's pre-eminent political journalist Andrew Neill before the election , Johnson has also banned government ministers from going on the Today programme on Radio 4 (flagship daily political programme) and is even threatening to remove the BBC's funding by abolishing the licence fee.

What he appears to be doing is taking a leaf straight out of the Trump playbook and refusing to be held to account or subject himself to scrutiny by anyone who he considers to be less than friendly. Chilling.
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@JovialPlutonian In Finland (scandinavians stuck in snow seem to have nothing better to do than think about sensible policies) a few years ago created a campaign to help think critically about the media they receive, particularly in social media. Interesting that they have ended up with the opposite of the populist demagogues that have emerged, coincidentally since Russia and vested interests started manipulating social media.
And Rupert Murdoch - I'll be singing ding dong the witch is dead when he's gone - done more damage to democracy in my lifetime than anyone I know. Certainly in Australia.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@RodionRomanovitch yes and ppl have a problem with Corbyn. He's the only one defending us and we just condemn him for it.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Britain has more going for it than many think, as a member or signatory to more than ninety international organisations or treaties.

The difference is that although many of those do create international laws with which some EU Directives accord, they do not aim to subsume their member or signatory countries to unite in a quasi-state; an ambition that was no secret and was supported by Edward Heath even when he lied otherwise about the EEC only he called "The Common Market".
iagreed · 61-69, M
@ArishMell Everyone referred to it as "The Common Market" not just EH.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@iagreed They did, because "everyone" (including me at the time)thought that was its proper title and purpose. Yes, it was and is a common market (small initials) but was it was never officially that by name.

Heath is also suspected of having been given a handsome cash "award" of tax-payers' money for signing the accession; and ordering the BBC to be pro-EEC biased. I have seen these only in a book I have on the subject, but they are serious accusations that to my knowledge still await proper investigation.

The EEC (possibly EU by then) itself started to make me question its aims and methods, by its vicious reaction to my enquiring after a post as a driver (hardly inspiring work, but on a salary above that of many contemporary business managers). It had been unofficially advertised by an MEP in his weekly column in a newspaper.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
It would be funny , if it wasn't so fucking tragic.
I’m sure Britain will be just fine. I was surprised by The separation though and then again with this last vote.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Quoththeraven on a system built on status over substance it really isn't much of a surprise that they voted as they did.
Britain will never be an island
it has more support than people may think
Quizzical · 46-50, M
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
Have you ever seen so much division?@Quizzical
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@JovialPlutonian Well... We did have a couple of civil wars a few hundred years ago 🤔
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Quizzical blimmey
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
This is called "British humour." 😒
SW-User
They have definitely diminished their global influence in the long run
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
That's what happens when you put a bunch of cowboys in charge lol@SW-User
Poor old Corkbin...

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Nimbus · M
Tragic more like.

 
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