Impeachment squad?

@Zeuro And they have more votes.

@eli1601 not proportionally. Not in the senate

Have you ever heard of the Constitution? Are you registered to vote? When was the last time you actually voted? @Zeuro

@jackjjackson why are you assuming I don’t vote? I’ve voted in every election since I could legally do so. Do you just not know how the senate works?

I haven’t assumed anything. Simply asking questions. OK so you vote. Next, are you familiar with the Constitution? @Zeuro

@Zeuro They have more votes in the electoral college. That's what matters.

Are you familiar with this?


@Zeuro

@jackjjackson am I familiar with the picture he literally just posted? Yes, yes I am

@Zeuro That's literally the whole point of the senate. The electoral college generating the occasional anomalous win is a bug, not a feature - but the entire point of the senate is to for one of the houses of congress to be a legislative body where states are on equal footing.

@QuixoticSoul yeah I know that’s the point of the senate, my point is that’s inherently unfair to people in larger states because California has the same number of senators as freaking Wyoming

@Zeuro It's not unfair - we are a federation, that's the whole point. Large states still dominate this nation in basically every way that actually matters. Where do you think all this fear and envy are coming from?

@QuixoticSoul just because it’s designed for that purpose doesn’t make the purpose right or just. Uneven representation subverts the will on the people. Why do people in tiny states in the middle of nowhere deserve a higher proportion or representation than people in large urban centers?

@Zeuro The boost in representation doesn’t really come from the tiny bump small states get from their senators - small states that are solidly in one camp or another get a pretty small boost. It’s the winner-gets-all style of voting that’s responsible for the overrepresentation.

When big states are swing states (and they have been in the past) they dominate the election, campaigning, etc) - they decide the course of elections, and have huge impact. At the moment, they’re solidly dem states because Republicans have been fucking retarded for a while, and lost the coastal elite vote. But that’s largely a detail of history.

Anyway, the current setup has worked pretty well, and the federation thing has worked out. No real reason to mess with it.

@QuixoticSoul if by “worked out” you mean elected people who got less votes than their opponent then sure it’s worked out

You sound bitter. What happened? @Zeuro

Indeed 🤠 @QuixoticSoul

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That's why one is called The U.S. House of Representatives...get it? Representatives? They represent the constituents of a particular state at the federal level. More constituents = more federal representatives.

Until the 17th Amendment was passed in 1912, the U.S. Senators were chosen by each state's elected state representatives and senators. The people voted for their state representatives and senators (the state legislature) and that state legislature would elect the US Senators to go to Washington D.C. The U.S. Senators were not intended to be simply cardboard cutouts of the will of the people in electing their U.S. representatives (as it is now). When problems and bickering arose around 1840, the solution that was eventually achieved was to put the election of senators in the direct hands of the people (and thereby eliminate the voice of much of the small population centers that was originally brilliantly provided by the original constitution).

For example, in Oregon, the large metropolitan population centers in Portland and Eugene can outvote most of rest of the state, and usually do. They vote democrat. However, those people in the metro areas (and their elected reps) don't always have the best interests of the more rural areas in mind. Those areas vote Republican. At the state level, that can be addressed. At the federal level...not so much.
If Portland and Eugene want federal strawberry ice cream, and the rest of the state wants federal chocolate...well...sorry, but the entire state must eat federal strawberry.
The electoral college is designed to make sure that the huge population centers don't outstrip the rest of the smaller individual votes, so that the 'masses' of chocolate lovers can be heard! In the same way, the U.S. Senate is meant to make sure the huge population center's U.S. Representatives don't overwhelm the legislative branch of the Federal government - the good ol' "Checks and Balances" system. @Zeuro