Impeachment madness

@bijouxbroussard I guess Joe Biden straight up telling the president of Ukraine that unless he fired the prosecutor working on a case against the company his son works for, there would be no US Aid, and then bragging about getting the guy fired by threatening a foreign government is something we should over look. But, Trump asking the President of Ukraine to look into that firing is a bad thing. I am okay with the dems trying to impeach Trump, but Joe should be right there on the bench beside him to take a turn in the hotseat too. I have read the transcript of the call, Trump didn't ask for anything except for him to look into dealings with the energy company. He didn't threaten to withhold aid as Biden did. Biden overstepped his authority in this matter.

@Roadsterrider This is what Politifact says about Biden:

[quote]The viral image said that when Hunter Biden was serving as "a director to Ukraine’s largest private gas producer," his father "threatened to withhold $1 BILLION in U.S. aid to Ukraine if they didn’t fire a prosecutor looking into" the gas company.

The image gets individual pieces of this assertion right -- Hunter Biden was a director of the company, and Joe Biden did leverage U.S. aid to fire a prosecutor. But it overreaches by assuming that Joe Biden acted to protect the company his son was affiliated with. In reality, there was widespread agreement in the West that the existing prosecutor had to go, and it’s not clear that the company would have benefited from his ouster anyway, given evidence that its cases had long been dormant.

That said, experts criticize the Bidens for their arrangement, saying it could have been a significant conflict of interest.

We rate the statement Half True.
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So Biden may end up not being president. But Trump is, and you folks want to re-elect him. As far as the Trump transcript, do you know for a fact what you've read ? Why is Trump trying to keep people from testifying if there's nothing to hide ? Why are his allies accusing Vindman (who listened to the call) of being "unpatriotic" for simply telling the truth ? And what would Vindman (a Republican) have to gain by not going along, if there was nothing wrong ?

@bijouxbroussard He did leverage to get the prosecutor fired but it is a "half truth because we can't be sure he did it to protect the company his son worked for? How could a real journalist come up with anything so obtuse. He leveraged a foreign government to fire a prosecutor that was investigating the company but we aren't sure he was protecting the company by getting the guy fired. The smell test says he was trying to protect either the company or his son. He should be right there next to Trump in the hearings explaining why Trump had to fix his screw up with a foreign power.

@Roadsterrider Trump didn't have to "fix" anything. He was looking for "dirt", the same way Donald Jr was lured into that meeting with the Russian representative on the promise of "dirt" on Hillary, because that's what they do. And I ask you again, why is Trump fighting the truth coming out, by his own people (like Lt. Col. Vindman) ? Ask yourself that ? Trump has always said, (during the last administration), "if you have nothing to hide, don't hide !"
Yet he's been telling people who aren't president and can be prosecuted to ignore subpoenas. You can't blame [b]that[/b] on anyone but Trump.