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60 per cent of Democrats wanted Trump Impeached the week after the election in 2016....And they still can't beat him in 2020../

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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
They’re idiots who refuse help.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@jackjjackson Sounds like a bitter Trumptard. Smile. 🙂
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
What I described is a group a perfect example of which is YOU. @Zonuss
@jackjjackson This guy is interesting. He is proud of the fact that "I wouldn't last long in his neighborhood." Funny thing is , I'm proud as hell that he would be perfectly safe in 'my' neighborhood. This guys is a classic example of a leftist.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@puck61 Talking around the issue again. Another bitter Trumptard. It looks like it was all done in vain. Because if you really felt confident in your President right now you would not be so defensive. 🤭
@Zonuss You are a clown. Nothing but an annoying clown. I'm not the least bit concerned with what you think. I'm just concerned that rotten people like you exist in such large numbers. Like I said yesterday, you really need to think about how you think. Our threads are very revealing of your character, and it seriously leaves a lot to be desired. Fix yourself.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@puck61 Awwwww, the poor baby. Did I just rattle your feathers. Then maybe you should change your diaper then. 😂
@Zonuss Oh my gawd! Are you fecking 14? 😆
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@puck61 No. I am the Conservative Ass Kicker. Care to dance. 🙂
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@puck61 Puck, I don't think you have to worry about Trump, I am not. I drive all over the country, if there is any support for Bernie or Pocahontas or any of the other candidates, it is a silent support. I travel weekly between Michigan and South Carolina, Trumo supporters are already geared up, support for dems is non existent.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider And again his legacy will be tainted for good. You can forget about him being a hero in the history books. So it really doesn't matter. The damage has been done. And culturally the country will get worse. You will see. 🙂
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss From all I can see, it is the liberals and extreme left wingers that will be tainted and they are taking the democrat party with them. They are talking about raising taxes for "medicare for all" and in the next breath talking about free healthcare for illegal immigrants. They are talking about taxing scholarships for citizens but free higher education for immigrants. The majority of this country doesn't want socialism and that is what the left is preaching, they may call it democratic socialism but the root is socialism. I know many more ex democrats than I do ex republicans. I know guys my age that have argued for the last 30 years against George Bush, Ronald Reagan, yellow dog democrats that have been telling me, they have to bite the bullet and vote Trump in 2020. The democrats have become the apologists for America and most of the country doesn't believe we have much to apologize for. The transcript of Trumps phone call is available online, anyone who has read it knows there isn't anything impeachable in that call to the President of the Ukraine, the democrats are looking more and more like obstructionists. They have concentrated for 3 years on smearing the President and ignored the issues they were elected to work on. And, the issues they are trying to bring up are directed towards immigrants. In the meantime, in the last 3 years, the economy has improved steadily, unemployment has improved, the welfare roles have decreased. The wall on the border is being built even if slowly because the democrats in the house and senate can't get on board. The democrats have started looking like they would rather have something to throw at Trump than work for the betterment of the country. Take a look at medicare, 44 million on medicare today and the cost is $600 Billion, when you cover everyone with the program, 7 times the number that is currently receiving service, the cost goes up to $4.2 Trillion.....every year. With the total revenue of the US government at about $3.5 Trillion, where is this going to come from every year? It is getting so ridiculous that even the voters that listen only to the sound bites are saying that it can't be added up.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider This is false. There will be a major backlash against the populist extremist nationalist culture. And we are starting to see this right now. We are seeing Democrats win election across the board. And we are seeing a decline in the influence of the Trump cult movement. Like the Tea Party it represents a nasty undercurrent of days gone by. It reminds us of the segregation era. A time where the world abroad resented pre the Neo Fascist Right movement. It was brewing them but it was more of an independent class then. Today it has a new name. The Alt Right. Its the same racist system it was then but under a different brand. And people are starting to see right through it and call it for what it is.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss I don't think the democrats did as well as they should have if this were true, they won in VA but that has been coming for a while. They only had a few republicans left in the state. They broke even in KY and and lost in Mississippi, if what you are saying were true, I would have expected the "blue wave" the talking heads were prophesying was about to come.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider There is no blue wave. But there is an implemental change going on here right now. What we are seeing are people who are starting to second guess the new populist Alt Right movement. Because it is causing more problems than they bargained for.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss I would say that they are seeing what a failure progressive policy has been and are coming more to the center if not to the right. Low unemployment, lower taxes, better wages, but their kids are still in schools that suck, they are still facing huge debt for college. While the liberal crown wants free healthcare and housing for illegal aliens, instate tuition for aliens, they want to protect the illegal dreamers and leave the US citizens to work till they die to pay for it. The age of social media makes it hard for the paper or film media and news to keep up. Google and the internet make it too easy for someone to check facts and find out if they are being lied to or not.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider You sound like a robot. And the more you say the less credible you become. Lets talk about some of the failed policies of the last two Republican Presidents. Lets talk about who catapulted us into a recession. Lets talk about who started this war. Lets talk about the first US President to resign. Lets talk about the last US President to have just one term. See, you cant keep up can you. 🙂
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss I am not limited to voting for Republican candidates and don't always vote for them. Some things just require a little common sense, in a place like WV or PA, you don't talk about eliminating mining coal without either replacing it or including the tremendous loss of jobs. Flaggers working for the drilling companies making $35K a year with welders and drivers making twice that while the average worker outside of gas and coal is making $8 an hour. Then you apply that to autoworkers in Detroit, Tennessee, Texas, Ohio, etc., oil and gas includes a whole lot of people who don't want to see their jobs go away for 10 years while green energy manufacturing facilities are constructed. If you want to look at specific party policy, look at the economy during and after Reagan and Bush Senior, nothing but growth. Then Clinton, nothing really bad happened under Clinton but nothing really good either, he rode through on Reagans economy, then we have Bush Jr. Nothing spectacular except a steadily slowing economy, then Obama, BO was trying a social engineering experiment. And, it backfired, the only person happy about Obama was Carter because Obama was worse than him in office. Now we have Trump, treating politics like a business instead of a backroom card game and the career politicians can't handle it.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider There was slow steady growth during the 1980s. But it declined when Bush senior went into office. Spent too much money on the industrial military complex and was out after 4 years. Clinton created his own economy. If you are going to give the economic dot com boom of the 1990's to Reagan, then you might as well give Obama credit for this economy that we are seeing right now. More contradictions. 🙄
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss Obama didn't have a clue about the economy, 2% growth is the new norm was Obama's comment. The guy on the street didn't feel any change in the economy till after Trump was in office getting threatened with impeachment. There is no contradiction in anything I said, progressive policy spends money with increased taxes and conservative policy leaves more money in the pockets of the people who earned it to buy goods. One slows the economy and one speeds it up. The ACA for example, I had decent insurance for about $400 a month, then it went to $800 a month and then to $1000 a month for less coverage each time. Obama's policy hurt a lot of people, if it hadn't HRC would be sitting in the oval office instead of Trump. When you start talking about making "Wall Street" pay their fair share, you are talking about everyone with a retirement account paying a share. That means another chunk out of the middle class who is already paying a huge share. The dot coms bubble will eventually go the way of the housing bubble when people realize it is a bunch of servers in a warehouse somewhere. They aren't like GM or Boeing with real assets. They will fail too at some point.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider Your true colors are showing again. Obama did very well. Unemployment went from 10% to 4% under his leadership. If not, then we would not be at 3.5% today in 2019. So like lets be logical and fair here today. And again no more contradicting yourself. Please. 🙂
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss If you just now saw "my colors" you weren't looking, they are conservative and patriotic and there has been no action to hide anything about the way I think or feel. You may not want to admit Trump is doing a better job than Obama but the indicators are all pointing to that, there isn't a riot every weekend. The nation is less divided. People are happier.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider You contradicted yourself again. You said you voted on both sides of the aisle. Which is probably a lie. And you gave Reagan credit for the economy of the 1990s even though you totally skipped Bush Senior who was voted out of office after just one term. Yeah, youre dumb. 😂