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60 per cent of Democrats wanted Trump Impeached the week after the election in 2016....And they still can't beat him in 2020../

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They had the whole treacherous plan drawn up in December of 2016. Now it's just one stupid contingency after another, and they are guaranteeing a Trump win in 20.
NativeOregonian · 51-55
@puck61 I agree, the idiot neolib idiots are obsessed with the shit, they refuse to listen to those of us that tell them their picks are worthless. Do they honestly think grabber hair sniffing Joe or fake indian Liz will win? Fools.
@NativeOregonian I think Yang is the best of the line up, as far as democrat choices are concerned. If somehow hell freezes over, I could live with Yang as president.
NativeOregonian · 51-55
@puck61 I like Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Gutfield, and Glenn Beck are all impressed with her.
@NativeOregonian Yeah, Hillary's attack on her was about the best endorsement anyone could get!
NativeOregonian · 51-55
@puck61 The thing that made me laugh my ass off three years ago was that the DNC cheated and sabotaged to coronate cunt clinton, and still couldn't win, then fucking TURNED AROUND and accused shrump of cheating.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@puck61 The more this drags out, the more it looks like liberals are just throwing a tantrum because the voters didn't choose Clinton. They just want to keep everyone from playing till they get what they want. Politicians are all corrupt, when the RNC and the DNC hate a candidate, that is the guy for me. Trump says what is on his mind, the RNC and DNC don't own him like they do other candidates. If we could fill up the house and senate with non career politicians it would be good for the country.
@Roadsterrider I think Trump is fantastic considering the unbelievable obstruction he has had to deal with, and I love the way he speaks his mind, and the best thing about him is all the right people hate him. I know who is who because just a certain type of people hate his guts. He is like Viagra. He makes all the pricks stand up so you can clearly see who has a fecked up agenda.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@puck61 Like Viagra making all the pricks stand up, funniest thing I have heard today. I agree, he has had no support from the dems and only little support from the spineless republicans. Yet, we are still looking at the lowest unemployment rates in decades, we are seeing action on border fences, the economy is doing fine. Just imagine what could be accomplished if the house and the senate were actually working with him!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider In spite of Donald Trump not being a career politician he is still just as corrupt as all the rest of them. And he does not like the rest of them care about the general public neither the Constitution. And he is too friendly with Russia. And that does not go over well with a lot of people. 🙂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss Blah, blah, blah - You keep saying this stuff, like the rest of the left.
And where is all this corruption?
So, all the wonderful economic news is Trump's expression of disrespect to the nation?
Lowest unemployment numbers fro blacks must be his racism.

Everyone thinking for themselves loves this president.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Budwick I say this because this is how people feel on both sides. So you might wanna take the word Left out of your vocabulary. You are another one who cannot tell night from day with your narrow minded views about politics and the world we live in. And word has it that the people around Trump are setting him up to fail because of the dirty deeds he has done behind closed doors. And they have every right to secure the Democracy of this nation. At least that is one thing I will say about the establishment. They will take care of business when its necessary to do so. Chew on that. 🙂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss Word is?
Your fairy tales are not legit Zone.

Half your team may be spending the holidays behind bars!
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Budwick No fairy tales. I have my sources and I trust them for sure. It appears to me that this is only the beginning. And once the cat is let out of the bag you will look even dumber than you do now. 🤭
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss [quote]I have my sources and I trust them for sure. [/quote]

I hope they are better than Shifty Shiff's!

Is it your extraterrestrial pals?
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Zonuss I would rather have Trump dealing openly with Russia than have Obama intimating to a Russian leader that he will have more latitude after the election when he thought the mic was off. Trump is not a politician, he says what is on his mind and that is much more palatable than the career politicians hiding behind the lawyerese and only saying what they think will get them by. In my opinion Trump is the most transparent president we have had in decades. Nancy Pelosi said in an interview a few days ago, "If the president has any exonerating information, he should present it." What happened to proving guilt before trying to sentence someone? If Nancy Pelosi has evidence proving guilt, she should present it. She doesn't so she can't. For the last 3 years the democrats have been set on stopping Trump and have not accomplished anything substantial. While they have been preoccupied with impeaching Trump instead of doing their job, they have allowed the AOC and Beto O Rourkes to rule the discussions of policy and they have driven the candidates so far to the left, one trying to out do the other as the most liberal, even Obama said the candidates should swing back to center. I would venture that most people are neither conservative or Liberal, they are a mix over different ideas, I am fiscally conservative, on gay rights I don't care who someone sleeps with but I think trying to force curriculum changes to teach children about gay relationships before they are even considering relationships is wrong. There will always be people who need help but do we really need 180 different social programs spending billions of dollars a year on overlapping fields? The real bottom line for responsible voters is how do we pay for all this and where do we draw the line. As far as Trump being corrupt, at the moment, the democrats in the house and senate want to impeach Trump for doing exactly the same thing that Joe Biden did as VP under Obama, the main difference is that Biden was actually looking to leverage his will on a foreign nation and then bragged about it working in an interview seen on national TV. In my opinion this whole scenario is "the pot calling the kettle black". Trump was dragged through the wringer with Stormy Daniels, not a political issue, Russian collusion proved to be a non issue, now they are going for the issue with aid to Ukraine that will be a non issue. Under Obama, he was using the IRS to target political adversaries, Fast and Furious put guns on the street that killed US police officers and Border Guards, Clinton lied under oath, HRC left Americans to die in Benghazi and then her and BO made up a story about an offending video and jailed the maker to cover up their inept ability and decision making. When looking at corruption in politics, the biggest difference is that it seems the left only wants to rat out the right, the right seems content to let it all continue. Both parties appear to be entrenched in corruption but the democrats want it all for themselves.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Roadsterrider Well that is because most people view the Right as false prophets, liars, and hypocrites. Donald Duck Trump represents the very thing that they oppose as far as culture and Christianity is concerned. So again it is all a bunch of bs and a bunch of contradictions. Trump being the corrupt idiot that he is only means that is just like the rest of em. 🙂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss [quote]most people view the Right as false prophets, liars, and hypocrites.[/quote]

That is pure lunacy.
No one but you has said anything like this - and it is senseless anyway.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Budwick It is fact. And the fact that some of them, not all, see Trump as a savior is pretty much self explanatory. So yes. This post Trump perception of the Far Right I see now has been tainted.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss [quote]see Trump as a savior[/quote]

Now you are heading to insanity.
NO ONE sees Trump as a savior - at least not in a religious sense - as you are trying to imply.

I and many conservatives do think he saved the country from going down a socialist drain.

But 'savior' - is a word that conservatives reserve for Jesus Christ - and leftists us as hyperbole.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Budwick This socialist drain is an overexaggerated term. America is a Democracy. And it is a capitalist country. Still. 🙂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss “Overexaggerated” is a redundancy. If something is exaggerated, it’s already over stressed.

I agree - America is has a capitalist economy.
And that we are a Constitutional republic.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@Budwick Yes. Because if we were a socialist country as you so delightfully put it then why did we lose 55,000 manufacturing jobs under the Bush Administration. And squandered a budget surplus also under Bush. A Republican President. 🙂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Zonuss Lot's of reasons that you will dismiss in heartbeat.

I'm glad we have a capitalist president now!
@Zonuss Why did we lose about 50k lives under the LBJ Administration >