I didn't do it, but if I did, here's what it would've looked like.

@Budwick my auto correct seems to know what verdigris is.

Am I denying it? No, I'm highlighting it. The man bragged about the very evidence he offered.

@Graylight Your auto correct knows how to spell the word - I asked if you know what it means.

' bluish-green encrustation or patina formed on copper or brass"

Makes no sense in your context.

No one denies Trump had a call with the Ukraine leader. You seem to think that in itself is a crime. It is not.

@Budwick Trump did not release a transcript of the conversation with the Ukrainian President. Many people would like to see it though. He released a summary of the conversation. Two very different things, particularly since his word cannot be trusted. Only a verbatim transcript would show what he actually said. Still, his own summary clearly indicates the quid pro quo he was using to extort the President. Trump's own Chief of Staff admitted it yesterday. It is both a crime and an impeachable offense to do what has now been admitted.

@windinhishair You would rather believe an unknown whistleblower with an axe to grind and no skin in the game. Even the Ukraine Pres said there was no pressure.

Private conversations of the president may have to remain so.

@Budwick Everything the whistleblower said has either been admitted to by the bungling White House or corroborated by others. The President wants his conversations to remain private to prevent additional evidence of his criminality from being exposed.

The crime of Trump's Ukrainian quid pro quo (there may be others) doesn't depend on the statements of the Ukrainian President. Trump's action is criminal in itself and impeachable. Even Republicans are coming to this conclusion.

@windinhishair [quote]Everything the whistleblower said has either been admitted to by the bungling White House or corroborated by others. [/quote]

Are you still listening to Shifty Schiff's version of the call?
Cuz the the blower said plenty that doesn't fit.

@Budwick Actually, no, he didn't. Face it, US Foreign Policy with Ukraine was run through Giuliani and focused on getting Ukraine to find information (dirt) that Trump could use personally to discredit Biden in the 2020 election. That's a crime, Bootlick, and impeachable. It will be one of the Articles of Impeachment.

@windinhishair Finding criminal evidence is impeachable?
You really HAVE stepped off the deep end.
Not only is it not an impeachable offense, it's his [i]duty [/i]to investigate.

@Budwick We’re going by the witness testimony and actual statements from the administration. We’re way past the whitleblower statement.

@LeopoldBloom Good for you.
Then, you should know it's done.

@Budwick Yes, it is now and has always been an impeachable offense AND a crime to solicit a foreign government to interfere in our election for personal gain. You'll see it as one of the Articles of Impeachment, drawn up by lawyers who know far more about the law that you do, Butlick.

@windinhishair I know you WANT foor Trump to have done something, ....anything wrong, but just like the 57 times before - he hasn't.

@Budwick Do you have any idea how many open and pending investigations there are against him? He has been adjudicated of nothing.

@Graylight [quote]He has been adjudicated of nothing.[/quote]

So, lot's of charges,
and none of 'em stick.

Sounds like some one is trying hard to make him look bad,
and is failing miserably.

@Budwick Just curious - if it were proved to your satisfaction that he did commit an impeachable offense, would you support removing him from office? Or he gets a pass because MAGA?

[@Buttlick] Ten separate instances of obstruction of justice in the Mueller Report, all documented and ready for Congressional action. And now his self-admission of a crime and another impeachable offense with Ukraine. You don't have to look too hard for wrongdoing--he himself admits it.

@Budwick What they said, plus you might want to look into how the legal system works. Pending charges without a verdict does not innocence make.

@Graylight One isn't MADE innocent.
One IS innocent until proven guilty.

[dumass]

@Budwick He proved himself guilty within 48 hours. He literally bragged about soliciting a foreign nation and [i]then did it again on camera.

And it's "dumbass," dumbass.

@Budwick It's not a criminal trial, it's an inquiry. You might as well tell the cops they can't arrest you because you're "innocent until proven guilty." Maybe so, but when you're suspected of wrongdoing, the authorities are allowed to investigate. We're witnessing the preliminary fact-finding phase of the investigation, which is usually done out of public view. Don't worry, the actual impeachment will be on TV, as will the trial in the Senate where Trump will have an opportunity to defend himself.

@LeopoldBloom You dumasses claim he is guilty and don't even have a crime!

@Budwick Soliciting a foreign power to aid in operations against American citizens. 3 times.

Obstruction. More times than can be counted and just recently the navies of the administration's official response.

Violation of the emoluments clause, a part of the US Constituion he just called phony.

"Crimes" have nothing to do with impeachment. Wrongdoings do.

But just keep denying reality.
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@Graylight [quote]Soliciting a foreign power to aid in operations against American citizens. 3 times.[/quote]

That's incorrect. And, totally Biden's bally-wick.

The rest of your crap is crap - made up.

@Budwick It is a [b]crime[/b] for a foreign government to interfere in a US election. That's why all those Russian nationals were indicted during the Mueller Investigation. It is also a [b]crime [/b]for an American to solicit a foreign government to interfere in a US election. That's what Trump was openly doing with Ukraine. So every day, more and more proof of that Trump crime is being obtained by Congress, and why Trump lashes out more and more every day. This time his obfuscation won't work.

@windinhishair [quote] That's what Trump was openly doing with Ukraine[/quote]

No, he wasn't.
I know that's what you WANT to have happened - but it didn't.

What about those indictments you mentioned? Did Mueller put a bunch of 'em in jail secretly?