This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
LeopoldBloom · M
No need to descend into conspiracy theory. The whistleblower is superfluous now, since most of the allegations have been supported by other sources, including the White House summary of Trump's conversation with Zelensky.
In law enforcement, the whistleblower's statement isn't evidence, it's a lead. For example, someone reports to the police that they overheard two guys in a bar talking about a murder. The police wouldn't build a case just on that; they would go to the bar and question other people to determine if the lead was valid or not. That's what's happening right now with the closed-door testimony. Once the Democrats have a solid case, everything will be presented publicly and Trump will have the opportunity to defend himself in a formal setting.
In law enforcement, the whistleblower's statement isn't evidence, it's a lead. For example, someone reports to the police that they overheard two guys in a bar talking about a murder. The police wouldn't build a case just on that; they would go to the bar and question other people to determine if the lead was valid or not. That's what's happening right now with the closed-door testimony. Once the Democrats have a solid case, everything will be presented publicly and Trump will have the opportunity to defend himself in a formal setting.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So it would be OK if someone told law enforcement that he or she saw a meth lab at GWJR’s house? @LeopoldBloom
LeopoldBloom · M
@jackjjackson There can be penalties for making false reports to law enforcement, but if someone sincerely believed that they saw illegal activity at my house, and reported it, the police could investigate. You don't think the police investigate leads?
Also, I thought whenever the cops shoot a black suspect, conservatives say "if he wasn't doing anything wrong, he should have cooperated." Why doesn't that apply to Mango Mussolini? His failure to comply with requests from the House must mean he's guilty, right? Or he gets a pass because he's so great?
Also, I thought whenever the cops shoot a black suspect, conservatives say "if he wasn't doing anything wrong, he should have cooperated." Why doesn't that apply to Mango Mussolini? His failure to comply with requests from the House must mean he's guilty, right? Or he gets a pass because he's so great?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Without addressing the racism you’re interjecting unnecessarily the point is that the dems in the House are vastly overreaching. @LeopoldBloom
LeopoldBloom · M
@jackjjackson Trump could be impeached based only on the transcript of the phone call. And after Mulvaney shooting his mouth off, the only question isn't whether he tried to coerce Zelensky into helping with his campaign, but whether you think this is a problem or not. So try to imagine how you'd react if President Obama had threatened to withhold aid from France in 2011 unless they investigated what Mitt Romney had done there when he was a Mormon missionary in that country. Something about a hit-and-run drunk driving incident if I recall. If you would have been OK with him doing that, then I guess what Trump did isn't a problem either.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
There’s been a history of bullying other countries for all kinds of things. Personally I think getting into who did what which was worse does any of us any good. He won’t get convicted in thr Senate and as of today is on the way to sailing into his second term. Let’s get some infrastructure build and some sensible immigration laws and policies in place. @LeopoldBloom