Who is more of an adult between Greta Thunberg and Donald Trump.

@xRedx Climate change matters more than American electoral politics, which is one reason why the Swedish teenager has a more developed sense of priorities.

@Burnley123 buddy, you're comparing a teenage girl with nothing to show for with Trump. What reasonable and sensible solutions has anyone come up with? We live in a real world, we can't change the entire world economy based on assumptions and inaccuracies.

@xRedx You can change the world based on scientific reason or the opinions of a reality TV star who became a big Internet troll.

@Burnley123 Change the world how? What are the solutions? You can hate him, that's perfectly fine. But it's a bit ironic talking about immaturity* yet displaying it to a degree as well.

@xRedx There are plenty of solutions lmao. But if you think it's all a hoax, there is no reason to implement them.

[quote]it's a bit ironic talking about maturity yet displaying it to a degree as well[/quote] 🤔

@QuixoticSoul immaturity, and what reasonable solutions? Go on and tell me reasonable, practical solutions and how to implement them in the economy without hurting the daily lifestyle of millions of people. That's what I thought.

@xRedx Why are you even worrying about the solutions if you think everything is a hoax?

You overstate the pain of most mitigation scenarios, but they're pointless to even talk about if you think that it's all a hoax. Otherwise, you'll have to weigh the potential costs of inaction against the expense of whatever mix of mitigation strategies we might put in place.

@xRedx [quote]Go on and tell me reasonable, practical solutions and how to implement them in the economy without hurting the daily lifestyle of millions of people. That's what I thought.[/quote]

The solutions include:

- Clean, renewable energy.

- Advanced, reliable and far reaching public transportation systems.

- Shift a portion of business travel, and this may be the bulk of it, to teleconferencing, along with the development of advanced Augmented Reality solutions.


- Just In Time distribution system, to reduce the amount of travel people need to do for their supplies.

- Smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles

And that's just for starters. How is any of this going to hurt the daily lifestyle of millions of people?

@Northwest You can name all of these but how are we gonna not only implement them, but actually acquire all the cash influx needed for all of this on something that scientists aren't even in consensus? Also, you're assuming the general public would agree to use public transportation and smaller more economical cars. Like aocs new green deal, they're interpreted all the information how they wanted stating that bogus 12 year deadline. Funny how all you people think you're morally high with this climate change card yet act like dictators, trying to change people and their personal decisions as well businesses over all the world.

@xRedx [quote]on something that scientists aren't even in consensus[/quote]
The scientists are very much in consensus.

[quote]Also, you're assuming the general public would agree to use public transportation and smaller more economical cars.[/quote]
These things are relatively easy to incentivize.

[quote]they're interpreted all the information how they wanted stating that bogus 12 year deadline[/quote]
AOC etc, aren't scientists. They, like you, seem to misinterpret "the deadline". Luckily, we live in an information-rich world where you can quickly find what that 12 years represents.

[quote]Funny how all you people think you're morally high with this climate change card yet act like dictators, trying to change people and their personal decisions as well businesses over all the world.[/quote]
That's simply a fundamentally emotional argument, dude. Especially when you're talking about ecological disasters and he like.

@xRedx The Petulant child is in the WH.

@xRedx Are you a graduate of Trump University ?

@xRedx

[quote]You can name all of these but how are we gonna not only implement them,[/quote]

It's pretty clear how we're going to implement them. Quite a bit of research, development, and productization has gone into each of these areas. You should look it up sometime, everyone else seems to be aware of it.

[quote]but actually acquire all the cash influx needed [/quote]

The same place that's used to build and update the existing infrastructure, and technology. Some of it is public, for public infrastructure, and some is private money, for products like software, cars, etc. Another fascinating topic, people seem to be very well aware of. You should look up thing like electric cars, metros, etc.

[quote]for all of this on something that scientists aren't even in consensus? [/quote]

Science is pretty much in agreement it can and is being done. Next time you see an electric car, don't consider it a prop in an animated film.

[quote]Also, you're assuming the general public would agree to use public transportation [/quote]

Hundreds of millions of people, around the world, would disagree with you assessment. This is a fact. Get used to it.

[quote] and smaller more economical cars. [/quote]

See above, and try to understand why there's a waiting list for people who want to by electric cars.

[quote]Like aocs new green deal, they're interpreted all the information how they wanted stating that bogus 12 year deadline[/quote]

Perhaps it's 12 year, and perhaps it's 20, but it's no longer a matter of is, it's a matter of when. As eloquently stated by Quixotic, politicians are not necessarily scientists, but scientists agree on that.

[quote]Funny how all you people think you're morally high with this climate change card yet act like dictators, trying to change people and their personal decisions as well businesses over all the world.[/quote]

"We" people? No one is forcing you to buy an electric car. Let me know when someone tries, via executive order, to deny the people of my entire State, the opportunity to select what we want in a car.