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Liberal/Leftist Logic

Save all animals and their babies, It’s morally wrong to kill them or harm them in any way
It’s perfectly ok to kill a human baby, nothing wrong with it
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SW-User
it is an extreme statement, nay a lie, to say that liberals are trying to stop all animals from being killed. also it is an extreme statement, another lie to say liberals want to kill babies.
abortion is a complicated issue because there is disagreement over when a right to life happens, some believe at moment of conception (and catholic doctrine says no birth control for that reason right) many say much later, but a woman has a right to her own body regardless of pregnant or not.
lying isnt going to lead anywhere.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@SW-User Abortion is NOT a complicated issue it's a PRIVATE one !
Of nobody else's business except the woman considering it.
SW-User
@Picklebobble2 i am very supportive of a womans right to chose for her body. however, hypothetically if a woman wanted to abort a healthy fetus in the 7th month (and ive already said late term abortions are about catostrophic issues), i think it is ok to say no or say c section. i have kids and at that point they are self aware.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@SW-User https://www.whattoexpect.com/wom/pregnancy/how-late-can-you-get-an-abortion-in-the-united-states.aspx

America as a whole can't even gain consensus on that one.
SW-User
@Picklebobble2 i know and it never will, but i think most american somewhere in middle
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@SW-User Fundamental facts are still the same. Unwanted pregnancies occur. There's no 'penalty' for the man who caused it but there [i]always[/i] is for the woman.

AND THE CHILD IF IT'S ALLOWED TO LIVE.
SW-User
@Picklebobble2 well why shuld the man have any penalty haha, we dont even enforce child support, but again another issue
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@SW-User Too many men in politics. Too many men in religious posts = Same answer everytime
SW-User
@Picklebobble2 too many men who really do not see women as equal