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Would it make sense to accept universal background checks in exchange for national reciprocity on state issued carry permits?

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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Without oversight on private sales at the federal level, background checks are pretty useless.

There isn’t even a federally mandated ID check for private gun sales - nor any meaningful way to track who sold what to whom. Shit’s a complete free for all.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@pagandad
[quote]The reason for not having this on private transfers is to allow fathers to give or will their weapons to their children, or friends to give a gun to another friend. [/quote]
The tiny utility of that doesn’t even remotely compensate for the lack of oversight that makes it impossible to drive up the street costs of weapons in any meaningful fashion.

In any country with sensible gun control, you can do just that - just have to file a form with the police in the process.

[quote]Also, if more people were armed, and we didn't have these "gun free zones" that only advertise that people there are completely vulnerable, armed citizens could stop a lot of these crimes before they got so bad.[/quote] Yeah, we’ve all heard this fairy tale once or twice - but it’s not even germane to what I’m talking about.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@pagandad Armed citizens in Texas couldn't prevent a criminal who failed a background check and still obtained an assault weapon from killing 7 and wounding over 20 people in a rampage lasting well over half an hour. We need an assault weapons ban, universal background checks, and limits on magazines at the very least. Transfer of weapons to a family member could be exempted.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@pagandad Everyone is talking about select-fire capability, when that's not even what makes these civilian versions of our military rifles so deadly. Full-auto is for suppression.

But that's beside the point, assault weapons bans are silly and largely cosmetic, and the term itself is relatively meaningless. And they wouldn't push street prices of black market weapons up, which is the actual goal of any sensible gun control scheme.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@pagandad We need a ban on weapons that are designed for and capable of killing large numbers of humans in a short period of time, and are not designed for hunting. You can have as much fun with the definition and history as you like. I really don't care if it is a popular platform or not. Its popularity is killing innocent Americans at rates seen nowhere else in the world. You don't need a firearm that can shoot more than ten bullets in a few seconds for protection or hunting.
redredred · M
@windinhishair What if l need to kill a large number of humans in a short time like the black guys in this photo?

http://www.mnopedia.org/multimedia/white-lynch-mob-posing-murdered-african-american-men
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred You simply wish death upon them as you already do for others, using your reptilian brain.
redredred · M
@windinhishair In the link l provided, l wish the african american victims had semi-autos with large capacity magazines to protect their lives and their rights. I cant quite understand why youd want them to be murdered with no hope of self defence.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Because people like you will kill them regardless. Large capacity weapons for mass murder have no place in a modern society.
redredred · M
@windinhishair Could those victims have used them lawfully? The police were avowed racists as was the governor. What other legal recourse did those victims have? Were they not in a legal position to lawfully kill their attackers? Why wont you address the lynching issue l gave you? Does it not fit your model of how the world should work?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred Do we have lynchings today? Your hypothetical has absolutely no relevance and isn't worthy of a response. What is relevant is that we have a major problem with the availability of guns and need to take action.
redredred · M
@windinhishair We have Antifa attacking people en mass while the police look on. We have people surrounding administration employees homes and not a very speedy police response. There are lots of current situations that could call for an effective response that a low capacity magazine would not facilitate.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred Weapons of mass murder fit right in with your philosophy of death to those you don't agree with. It is people like you who facilitate, aid and abet mass murder in the US. It isn't going to last much longer.
redredred · M
@windinhishair People like you who think history is over and there will never be lynch mobs ot tryannical governments again are the ones who will be looking for protection from armed civilians. The momentary epoch of peace you live in is not a standard or reliable state of human affairs. There is a strong likelihood that many of us will rely upon capable weaponry for our survival in the not too distant future. The government you look to for protection could well be the wolf at your door.

The world has never favored the weak or dependent. lf you think the stability you have come to rely on is forever or even for very much longer, well, youre not a person anyone should look to for advice.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred I choose not to live my life in fear, fueled by conspiracy theories, petrified of others, hating as many people as possible and wishing death upon them. You do, and you are welcome to it. I wouldn't come to you for protection if you were the last man alive on earth.
redredred · M
@windinhishair Correction, lm not afraid and l hate no one who means me no harm. I am capable of defending myself and others and lm not blind to the real risks that life contains. Go bathe in dreams of flower power. I an a realist about life andwishing away the risks never works
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred Your own posts show you to be paranoid, hateful, cruel, and petrified of others coming to get you. Doesn't sound like much of a life to me, but as I said, you are welcome to it.
redredred · M
@windinhishair Thats your interpretation stemming from your abundantly clear ignorance. I would hate to be so unaware and, frankly, silly as you obviously are.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred I'm sure most people who have read your posts continually wishing the deaths of others would agree with my assessment.
redredred · M
@windinhishair Other that RB fucking G whose deaths have l wished for in my posts? Specific please,not your ignorant fever dreams.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred You have wished for the deaths of people that you converse with, as soon as you disagree with them. Because you can't handle your anger appropriately.
redredred · M
@windinhishair Specifics please, not your ignorant fever dreams
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@redredred Mine, in one of your recent posts. Do you really want me to go back and find the examples of people who got the better of you and you couldn't handle it any other way than wishing for their deaths?
redredred · M
@windinhishair Did l wish it or was it simply good advice.