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Can a no-deal/hard Brexit be stopped?

Sadly, it's not looking likely after Boris Johnson just suspended Parliament until right up to the Brexit deadline.

There is not a democratic mandate to do this. A no-deal/hard Brexit has never had majority public support and the referendum result of 2016 includes those who voted for a soft Brexit. Even Nigel Farage himself advocated the 'Norway option' during the referendum campaign. Mr Johnson himself has no parliamentary majority for this move and he has not himself won a general election. What he does have though, is strong ideological control of the majority of his own party and ambiguities in our unwritten constitution means he can carry out this move which is perhaps (arguably) within the letter of the law, though fundamentally against it's spirit.

What sparked our Prime Minister into this nuclear option was the fact that opposition to his Brexit plans in Parliament was finally and belatedly coming together. The opposition to no-deal Brexit commands majority support in the Parliament and the country but is internally divided. Two weeks ago, the Liberal Democrats and moderate Tories refused an offer from Jeremy Corby, the Labour leader, to make him an interim PM to stop a no-deal Brexit. However, the opposition parties have met over the past few days to smoke their peace pipes and looked like they were getting to together a viable to postpone Brexit.

It's clear that there will be another general election soon because the Conservative party has no clear majority and because there is no majority for Brexit. Johnson and his people have been very cynical and ruthless here though in their determination to carry out hard Brexit by 'whatever means necessary'. Rumours are that there could be an election straight after Brexit, after the decision has been made but before the consequences hit. Johnson is counting that the Tory base and Brexit ultras will vote for him and that opposition is divided enough to make him PM again. This is damaging for the country in so many ways but time is running out.
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LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
Bercow to the rescue !
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@LegendofPeza We need him. God what a mess. Its constitutional civil war. We have to fight it though.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@Burnley123 I don't see how that oaf from Eton can get away with this. Too clever by half. Seriously if there's anyone who knows how to thwart Johnson , then it's Bercow. The gloves are well and truly off now.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@LegendofPeza Yeah, the British press and all our political figures have gone crazy. Dominic cummings is behind all this but I really hope Johnson has overplayed his hand. Even the moderate Tories are coming out against this move and Ruth Davidson has resigned. That is what I hope.

The trouble is that no-deal is the legal default option and that it needs parliament to actively support no deal. The stakes are really high and the margins are fine.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 She's "set to resign" tomorrow. Hasn't actually done anything yet as she has spent the day in hiding as she always does when there is something she needs to say other than "No surrender! WATP! No to independence."
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@thatscottishguy I know you don't like the Scottish Tories LOL and neither do I. She is gonna resign though and you have to give credit where its due. Her political career is almost certainly over and this will put pressure on English Tory moderates.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 I'd give her credit if her and Mundell resigned when they drew their first, second or third lines in the sand. Now he's been sacked and she's been looking like she has no interest in the job for a while so it's not principle, it's an excuse she's been waiting for.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@thatscottishguy Well yeah but come on man. If we are gonna stop no deal brexit then it helps to work with moderate tories and she is a moderate tory. I don't agree with all her politics but credit where its due.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 Credit for what?😂 It has nothing to do with principle so she deserves no credit. I'm not against working with her, though I would throw in a condition regarding something else.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@thatscottishguy Would you support a Rangers fan to stop brexit?
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
@Burnley123 After knowing me for years you really need to ask if I'd throw my politics out the window for football?