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TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M
@TheunderdogofNY Sadly, as far as anger goes, that's easier said then done, with lots of people angry because of deliberate incitement and others being angry at the people inciting them.
If the whole country were kids, I'd think about a national timeout to calm down, but even then, it would likely just start again unless the agitators are shut down somehow.
Lots of people are carrying on with their lives and trying to better their own situation. Some do better than others, and some multitask better than others, but I think seeing this mess as just an economic thing is pretty simplistic.
Trump is not just like any other President, and for some people, the crisis he's created or magnified is far deeper than just another politician struggling with a really tough job.
This guy has exposed and exploited deep chasms in our society, and created (ow widened) a rift that's not going to heal itself quickly, if at all.
Where do we go from here?
I've got a kid that I'm telling not to lie, that rules and norms exist for a reason, that he should absorb and judge facts, and then think for himself, and try to reason from what he sees with his eyes and ears because it's in his interests as well as everyone else's, and that it ought to pay off for him to respect others and work with others civilly and honestly throughout life.
But I'm thwarted as a parent, by a President who's playing a different tune, telling people that he is the only voice that should be listened to, that winning is the only thing that matters, no matter the cost or collateral damage and the kid is surrounded by millions of other parents, teachers, and adults that support him and seem willing to buy whatever crazy bs he he tells them.
I'm tired of telling my kid not to volunteer that he's having a bar mitzvah, that his grandfather wasn't born here, that not all immigrants are rapists, that guns do kill when used by bad people, and that even though he shouldn't draw attention to himself by telling anyone, that no one stormed any airports in the Revolutionary war or the war of 1812.
I get that it's my job to handle it, but I'll be damned if I don't feel like I have a right to be angry at how an already hard job has been made harder
P.s. two points. I have two older kids dissapointed that we haven't done more to extricate their younger sibling from this predicament and condemning my generation for tolerating and enabling a man who stands firmly against everything I told them was right since birth.
They blame me for not sticking with the values of honesty and rationality I tried to teach them, and while I told my parents the same thing, Trump makes Nixon look like a saint.
Second, I want to apologize for unleashing my frustrations on you. I agree with you that we should basically try to "get over it" even though I don't feel like I shouldn't have a right to be pissed off that its made harder than it ought to be.
I come here to vent sometimes, and you seem to be standing under my vent.
If the whole country were kids, I'd think about a national timeout to calm down, but even then, it would likely just start again unless the agitators are shut down somehow.
Lots of people are carrying on with their lives and trying to better their own situation. Some do better than others, and some multitask better than others, but I think seeing this mess as just an economic thing is pretty simplistic.
Trump is not just like any other President, and for some people, the crisis he's created or magnified is far deeper than just another politician struggling with a really tough job.
This guy has exposed and exploited deep chasms in our society, and created (ow widened) a rift that's not going to heal itself quickly, if at all.
Where do we go from here?
I've got a kid that I'm telling not to lie, that rules and norms exist for a reason, that he should absorb and judge facts, and then think for himself, and try to reason from what he sees with his eyes and ears because it's in his interests as well as everyone else's, and that it ought to pay off for him to respect others and work with others civilly and honestly throughout life.
But I'm thwarted as a parent, by a President who's playing a different tune, telling people that he is the only voice that should be listened to, that winning is the only thing that matters, no matter the cost or collateral damage and the kid is surrounded by millions of other parents, teachers, and adults that support him and seem willing to buy whatever crazy bs he he tells them.
I'm tired of telling my kid not to volunteer that he's having a bar mitzvah, that his grandfather wasn't born here, that not all immigrants are rapists, that guns do kill when used by bad people, and that even though he shouldn't draw attention to himself by telling anyone, that no one stormed any airports in the Revolutionary war or the war of 1812.
I get that it's my job to handle it, but I'll be damned if I don't feel like I have a right to be angry at how an already hard job has been made harder
P.s. two points. I have two older kids dissapointed that we haven't done more to extricate their younger sibling from this predicament and condemning my generation for tolerating and enabling a man who stands firmly against everything I told them was right since birth.
They blame me for not sticking with the values of honesty and rationality I tried to teach them, and while I told my parents the same thing, Trump makes Nixon look like a saint.
Second, I want to apologize for unleashing my frustrations on you. I agree with you that we should basically try to "get over it" even though I don't feel like I shouldn't have a right to be pissed off that its made harder than it ought to be.
I come here to vent sometimes, and you seem to be standing under my vent.
TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M
@MistyCee I'm not saying it's easy or that you don't have a right to feel some kind of way.
I'm saying that you have to make things happen and do your best because no one else will do it for you.
Just because the task at hand becomes difficult doesn't mean you get to avoid it.
You know the difficulty of your situation and even with you explaining it to me I can only imagine how your life is dealing with your issues.
The only point I'm trying to make is that you have to figure it out. When you have a family to take care of this becomes even more true.
Also, This is a public forum so please don't feel any kind of way about saying what's on your mind and/or heart. I welcome open honest discussion even with those I disagree with.
I'm saying that you have to make things happen and do your best because no one else will do it for you.
Just because the task at hand becomes difficult doesn't mean you get to avoid it.
You know the difficulty of your situation and even with you explaining it to me I can only imagine how your life is dealing with your issues.
The only point I'm trying to make is that you have to figure it out. When you have a family to take care of this becomes even more true.
Also, This is a public forum so please don't feel any kind of way about saying what's on your mind and/or heart. I welcome open honest discussion even with those I disagree with.
@TheunderdogofNY Thanks for understanding.
These are trying times, but I think the way to get through them is indeed, to muddle on through and take care of business, and not to lose sight of the fact that we're all imperfect human beings trying to do the same with whatever life throws at us.
These are trying times, but I think the way to get through them is indeed, to muddle on through and take care of business, and not to lose sight of the fact that we're all imperfect human beings trying to do the same with whatever life throws at us.