@Nimbus If you say so, dear, ☺️

@Brenda Lol, true! So they're secretly very happy. 😄

@pennynoodles I hear carrots🥕 will be all but impossible to get hold of as the carrot washer will be forced to close

@pennynoodles lol, I now have 144 toilet rolls and an almost equal number of canned beans :)

@Dlrannie Oh no! 😯

@whowasthatmaskedman You make sense.......unlike our masters who are steering us into an unknown destiny.

@Nimbus Thanks. I used to get into a lot of trouble for making sense. But in the end I did okay out of it.

@whowasthatmaskedman 😁

@Nimbus Hmm. Not sure about that. I think his smooth tones and smattering of Latin covers up a lack of genuine understanding of how most people live and think. He obfuscates with complex vocabulary to avoid real engagement with facts while appearing clever.

@Frank52 It is difficult to know for sure but he is an intriguing fellow.

@Nimbus I agree with both parts of that sentence.🙂

@Nimbus I try to pay attention. 😉

@4meAndyou God to hear :)

@4meAndyou
[quote]I know that the EU open border policy was very disturbing to about half of the British people, who then decided they no longer wanted their country flooded with immigrants taking their jobs.[/quote]

While undoubtedly there's some truth in this, it's more that the prospect of the EU's new upcoming Anti-Tax-Avoidance Directive was very disturbing to a handful of very rich people, who for decades have been enjoying the benefits of offshore tax havens (in the Channel Islands and the like), various tax avoidance schemes, and even money laundering.

The new EU laws would have put a stop to all that, hence the sudden desire to exit the EU as quickly and in as "hard" a fashion as possible (essentially to get us out from underneath the European Court of Justice).

Hence the extremely well-funded (to the point where some of it was subsequently deemed illegal) leafleting campaign; where dozens of anti-EU leaflets were stuffed through people's doors, many of them containing outright lies.

Not forgetting Boris Johnson's infamous slogan on the side of a bus that said if we left the EU we could give our beloved National Health Service £350m/week extra (also a lie and one they've more or less admitted since then). From what I gather this is what swung the vote for a lot of people... which when you think that the Leave vote was only 51.9% is pretty dubious.

(Hilariously Nigel Farage, a prominent figure on the Leave side, said before the vote that if it were only, say, 52% Remain then we'd have to have a second referendum. After Leave won by 51.9% he's been [i]awfully[/i] quiet about that!)

Clearly quite a lot of people did have genuine concerns about being in the EU, some regarding immigration issues, others regarding things like sovereignty, but many others had little idea of what they were voting for and were just after £350m/week more for the NHS.

Apparently the most-Googled thing the day [i]after[/i] the result was "What is the EU?"...

@daveegan111 I concur.

@Mentalicious 🤔

Both actually.

@Brenda
[quote]it's almost impossible not to be told to take the Cross of St George Down, if you fly it[/quote]

Really? Plenty of them round here, I can see one from my window right now (or could, if it weren't dark!).

@Brenda Maybe he flies the Union Jack.

@Threepio Even look alike too :)

@NeloAngelo Indeed, it may lead to the break up of the UK as we know it.

@Nimbus yep. there's already talks about a 2nd indy ref

@GlassDog lolololol, good one.

@MrBrownstone And it was reciprocated, lol.

@MarmeeMarch The thing is, Brexit will do nothing to reduce the numbers of people from India and Pakistan (neither of which are in the European Union, yannow).

On the contrary, it's been said that it might even increase their numbers, as someone will have to fill the gaps left by all the Eastern European immigrants that are now going back to their original countries...

So the people who voted for Brexit because they don't like brown-skinned people and/or their culture(s) may well have just shot themselves massively in the foot.

@TheThinker [quote]On the contrary, it's been said that it might even increase their numbers[/quote] I dont see how travel restriction and tightening on movement in and out of England will increase anything. The die is cast, now to fill the mold, it will happen. Brexit is another word for Make Britain Great Again.

@MarmeeMarch It's a complicated issue, but my understanding is sure, it won't increase the overall numbers (and it may well tighten them), but what it [i]will[/i] do is redistribute where they come from.

The British economy still needs immigrant workers to perform its low-paid jobs. With the ending of free movement between the UK and Europe, they'll have to come from somewhere else.

So say at the moment there are 100 immigrants a day, of which 90 are from Europe and 10 are from India & Pakistan, because it's so much easier to arrive from Europe.

Now, say, under the new rules the total number is cut in half but it's made equally difficult for people to come over from wherever they are - they all have to meet the same academic and financial criteria and so on. Then you might have 25 people a day from Europe and 25 from India & Pakistan.

End result: you now have 2.5 times as many brown-skinned people coming over after Brexit as you did before.

These figures are only example ones but I hope they illustrate the principle involved. Far from being "Nothing but a KEEP OUT sign for people from India and Pakistan", it could well end up being the opposite, as what it actually is is a KEEP OUT sign for people from Europe (regardless of their ability) thus opening the doors to better-qualified people from elsewhere in the world.

@EugenieLaBorgia I cannot disagree with that.

@SW-User Nice one, I like that :)

@faeriemagic do politicians ever?

@faeriemagic Yay!
I was thinking that too.

@Badvibe 😯

@shuhak lolol, always an original answer from you.

@Lostpoet 🤔

That's food for thought

👍️

@Lostpoet If it’s large, it’s not a fringe!

@MartinII it's still an off shoot of something even larger, but yeah you are right.

@RippinKlouds Yep, whatever that is ;)

@MartinII Indeed.
There is no getting away from it!

@Brenda Good point.

@SW-User Always a good maxim.

@TheSirfurryanimalWales Why?

@Nimbus David Cameron wanted us to stay!

@TheSirfurryanimalWales I'm glad you didn't base it on logic ;)

@Dlrannie Exactly!

@BlueRain Looking that way!