How do you feel about McConnell calling for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid cuts after passing a 1.5 trillion tax cut for the top 1%?

Is American Social Security not paid to give some level of financial help in times of need?

Social Security is taken out of every worker's paycheck. If you don't work, you can't draw funds from it, (widows, widowers, etc. are the exception). Social Security is not an "entitlement" as the Republicans keep saying. It is not theirs to give away. Each of you has individual accounts you’ve paid into for decades. That’s why your “benefit” is predicated on your contributions. This is your money, not a handout. Many Americans rely on this income to live on when they retire (albeit a small one) or income to live on if they become disabled. It is all the retirement income many have.

By cutting Social Security to reduce the debt (caused by tax cuts for the rich), is this not money flowing from the general population up to the rich?

Actually, is this not theft...

Is there a Republican brave enough to answer this question for me?

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Sicarium · 46-50, M

False premise. Everyone who pays taxes benefited from the tax cuts, not just then 1%. Stop with the talking points, be real. More gets accomplished.

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

Oh really? How did we benefit from the 1% tax cut?

My favorite professor just retired. He'll be relying on SS. How will he benefit?

I asked for an explanation, not right-wing talking points.

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@SWMae I'm not in the 1% and I benefited. Denying that doesn't change reality.

Start dealing with people honestly, you'll get further. Spewing left-wing talking points and then whining about right-wing taking points doesn't work, unless you're just interested in signaling to your bubble.

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

I will ask one more time. If you are unable to answer, simply admit it.

How did I benefit from the 1% tax cut?
How will my professor benefit from SS cuts?

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@SWMae I have no idea how your benefited. How could I? I don't know you. I don't know your life or if you even pay taxes.

I'm telling you that I'm not in the top 1% and I benefited. Accept that or not, be an ideologue or not. Your choice.

But that goes back to dealing with people honestly. You're looking for cheap gotcha points that your bubble will reward you for. I'm looking for more.

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

Let me make this easier for you. You seem to be grasping.

How did the average American benefit from the 1% tax cut?
How will the average American benefit from the SS cut?

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@SWMae Again, I'm not interested in cheap gotcha points or whatever you define as "normal." Why is that so hard to understand? If you paid taxes, you got a tax cut. That includes me. Pretty simple.

Actually, I got a double tax break. One from the tax cut, one from the defanging of the ObamaCare penalties.

Wol62 · 51-55, M

@Sicarium But you didn't as you don't pay taxes. If you don't believe me read The Wealth of Nations, it will explain how working people do not and can never pay taxes.

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@Wol62*checks pay check*

*sees he paid taxes*

Lol, mmkay.

Wol62 · 51-55, M

@Sicarium He answers that very point too!

You don't think Adam Smith was stupid enough to make that point, for someone just to destroy his argument with what you wrote do you?

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

You're unable to give examples? So basically you have nothing to offer other than a non-plausible hypothetical. Good job!!!

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@Wol62 Actually, no. You should've asked how I much I paid in taxes over the year and then how much I got back. But you didn't. Missed opportunity to prove your point.

But, just to let you know, before the tax cuts, I paid more than I got back.

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@SWMae You're not listening. I am the example lol. I'm giving you me. Which is all I can speak for.

Wol62 · 51-55, M

@Sicarium Didn't miss anything. Adam Smith proves, in The Wealth of Nations, that all taxes are a tax on profit. You can find online the part where he discusses taxes on wages and where they come from.

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

Biting my tongue... It's just too easy. 😏

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@Wol62 Obviously, if you include personal income as profit, which I do. But people like @SWMae don't. Hence, missed opprotunity.

And, yeah, actually, can find all that on Project Gutenburg.

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@SWMae Of course you'd say that. It goes along with the dealing with people honestly part. Something you're not interested in. It's easier to not listen and dismiss people instead. Protect that bubble.

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

And you suck at debate.

Wol62 · 51-55, M

@Sicarium Happy reading! It does make sense, as 100 years ago, workers in the UK "paid" about a tenth of what we are "taxed" now. Yet, their wages only buy a quarter of what we can today. The simple answer is that the one that Smith gives. The increase in taxes is passed onto employers as a higher wage claim. Which is great, but beware any politician that gives you a "tax cut" as employers use this as a bargaining tool to drive down wage increases. But then, why should a tax cut go back into the pockets of employees? All a tax cut means is that now the employers has to pay you less, for you to get the same. I rather think they want they want the tax cut in their pockets and not ours.

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@SWMae If you say so.

Just a hint though, ignoring what someone is telling you, to the point that you're afraid to actually address their comments, isn't debate. It's ideology. Just saying.

Turning off notifications though. Was hoping to get a different perspective, but you haven't thought any of this through beyond "I'm right and everyone else is stupid." Which only shows your own ideological slavery and hubris. You are capable of more by the way. You are not an ideological slave.

Sicarium · 46-50, M

@Wol62 Not quite. You're confusing personal taxes with payroll taxes. Which, as far as I know, is a thing in the UK too. But you're not on the wrong path. Read more, learn more, as always.

SWMae · 26-30, F

@Sicarium

WTF are you even talking about?

What decades of underfunding public education gets you...

Wol62 · 51-55, M

@Sicarium I don't say so, it's simple economic science. Even the founding fathers thought so too! Read Benjamin Franklin, he agrees! Can you believe that are fucktard libertarians and Republicans who will argue that employers will not try to keep the tax cut from their employees! 😂😂.
Yeah, because business men and woman always ignore opportunities for efficiencies! 😂😂

Wol62 · 51-55, M

@Sicarium No, Adam Smith does not confuse the two, please read him and Franklin and they will explain it to you in clear and concise language.