so like. there are more empty homes than homeless people by far

@hippyjoe1955 do you think they don't?

@clooo a lot of them prefer their addictions to their housing needs. I know I spend hours a day trying to get them into housing.

@hippyjoe1955 maybe because you were trying to get them into housing that wasn't free, and they didn't have jobs (because who hires and addict, right?), and that had a landlord that could just kick them out whenever so maybe

*abolish*
*landlords*
*and*
*make*
*housing*
*free*

@clooo it is free housing. They prefer to live on the street.

@hippyjoe1955 interesting. i'll look into that further. not what i'd expect but i'm interested in learning more.

@hippyjoe1955 All of them?

@clooo they don't like having neighbors they have to respect or at least get along with. Give the a house and they and their addict friends will make it uninhabitable in a few weeks.

@LeopoldBloom vast majority.

@LeopoldBloom according to statistics from ireland in 2018, most homeless people who are offered social housing will take it, and most who don't accept their first offer will accept the second (first offers are usually rejected because of location concerns about getting to their job, etc). so definitely not all of them.

presumably when working with addicts, the statistics are different.

@hippyjoe1955 well that's just unnecessarily rude, isn't it.

@AgapeLove A lot of people. Not everyone thinks and feels like you. Its the first thing you learn when dealing with homeless individuals.

@AgapeLove some people have genuine reasons to want to stay out of permanent housing, and some people have mental illnesses that make that process difficult, but overall yeah. they want homes.

@clooo Some want it in theory but not reality.

@AgapeLove eww not the bible

@AgapeLove And when the coat is thrown away and the food is all gone the homeless will still be homeless. Sad but true. The problem isn't lack of housing or clothing. Poverty is a spiritual illness not a physical one.

@clooo Prosperity theology.

@hippyjoe1955 poverty is a symptom of a system that allows it. not of the people that are forced to live in it.

@AgapeLove i don't want religion in philosophy thanks

@AgapeLove No one said that one shouldn't give. The point I am making as Jesus also pointed out "The poor you will always have with you". We can give everything we have to the poor and they will remain poor. Theirs is a spiritual battle not a physical problem.

@AgapeLove turn them into secular arguments and do some good philosophy to justify them, and then go ahead and use them. but flat copying from a book that endorses slavery is not a good look imo.