Serious question. Why should illegal immigrants get free health care?

@Miram You’re right. ❤️

@Miram with the exception of emergency care, physicians are denying even citizens, who are financially unable to pay... even denying to treat some that are on state funded Medicaid.

@easterniowegin

Physicians are denying all of you healthcare? Your system isn't governed by physicians, ours isn't either. in most cases, every single test they want you to have in order to diagnose you has to be approved by a consultant first and your insurance. A consultant that has far less experience than they do. We call it prior authorization. Doctors are herded together like hostages most of their lives, serving three masters and expected to create miracles.

No wonder the suicide rates are at their highest in North America.

Completely devalued.

@Miram where did you get the idea that north america has the highest suicide rates?
And i would say that the litigious nature of people wanting to blame others for their own issues and incompetence has helped run the cost of care too high, as physicians must pay for malpractice insurance so that an idiot can sue them.

@easterniowegin Compared to any other profession it is the highest rate currently.

[quote]And i would say that the litigious nature of people wanting to blame others for their own issues and incompetence has helped run the cost of care too high[/quote]

When a physician is sued for malpractice, it has no bearing on the costs of your treatment. Insurance companies, sponsors and hospitals control the prices.

Physicians are more financially affected by the expenses of their training and the ABIM

@Miram [quote]
When a physician is sued for malpractice, it has no bearing on the costs of your treatment. Insurance companies, sponsors and hospitals control the prices.[/quote]

Where do you think the money for the malpractice insurance comes from? Ever own a business? Ever need to pay such expenses?

@easterniowegin I think it’s a whole separate insurance that doctors need to have. 🤷‍♀️

@SimplyTracie it is, but it is required and they must pay the premiums out of their revenues. Which means that they must increase revenues in order to cover the costs. Thats how it increases the cost of care.

@easterniowegin Gotcha

@easterniowegin

That is false. Doctors do not define the prices of treatment regardless of the costs of malpractice insurance, especially if we are talking about Medicaid and general sector. And there is no published correlation between the two.

@Miram doctors dont set the reimbursement amounts from CMS.. they do get to negotiate with the insurance companies for their own reimbursement rates, if they are large enough.
But doctors can charge what ever prices they want. Ever seen a $10 aspirin on an inpatient bill?
Ive been in insurance and hospital billing for 20 years. Don't shovel too much bullshit my way. 😘

@easterniowegin No, they can't charge whatever prices they want. They are regulated. There is always a threshold and contracts already made. If the doctor is an opt out or non practicing provider, they may have some freedom but their interests can't exceed 17% as far as I know.

Appeals of authority are easily made online but they are irrelevant. Unless you manage to show me a paper that demonstrates increases in costs of malpractice insurance correlating with increasing in costs of treatment in the US, I remain unconvinced.

@Miram so you want me to prove a negative to you? Simply because you think it exists...even though you cant prove the existence.

So you think the $10 aspirin and the $150 doctor visit for 15 minutes is regulated? Lmao
Utility companies are the only orivate companies that have regulated revenues. You can shop around for a doctor...sounds like maybe you should.
And do you have any idea the amount of fraud that occurs from billing at physicians? No, there is no regulation of any kind on prices...only on reimbursement rates.

@easterniowegin [quote] i would say that the litigious nature of people wanting to blame others for their own issues and incompetence has helped run the cost of care too high, as physicians must pay for malpractice insurance so that an idiot can sue them.
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You believe a correlation exists not me. I don't think it does.

@Miram it doesn't matter whether you do, or not. You've obviously never ow nbn ed a business. You have no idea how revenue and expenses work.

If expenses go up, revenue must also go up...or you will begin to lose money. If you produce widgets, the price of your widgets must go up to compensate. Business 101. Smdh

@easterniowegin

Meaning

[i][b] There is no proof of malpractice insurance costs going up and doctors increasing the expenses of treatment in response..I will just continue making irrelevant personal attacks. [/b][/i]

As I previously said, there are many other things that affect doctors' expenses.

And I have to mention, not any idiot can sue a doctor. You need a certificate of merit issued by another doctor.

@Miram i spent a few seconds typing into google " malpractice suits impact on cost of care"
A couple of articles supporting what you are too dense to accept:
- https://online.tamucc.edu/articles/malpractice-and-its-effects-on-the-healthcare-industry.aspx
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15500024/

@Miram but I'm sure that the US National Library of Medicine and the University of Texas A&M arent legitimate sources for you.

@easterniowegin

The article and the study are fine. But I do question your reading comprehension skills now.

The first article doesn't demonstrate a correlation, rather it says patients are [i]afraid [/i]it will increase doctor's fees[b] and insurance fees.[/b] The way you're scared of that..

The second study also doesn't demonstrate a correlation, it is about how [b]unlimited, uncapped litigation[/b] of malpractice affects health care. Already cases in courts in some states, [b]not annual increases in insurance costs.
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So , without a doubt, that too is not about your statement.

I suggest next time read before posting links to me and try to follow the topic.