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Donald Trump is no longer denying [b]anything[/b] about collusion, and now he is basically admitting that he is [b]pro-collusion[/b] 馃... https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/forget-no-collusion-trump-is-now-pro-collusion
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StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
Collusion is not a crime. Anyone who doesn't collude with others to win an election is a fool. Democrats are acting like children because they bet everything on Mueller finding evidence of something completely legal and it backfired. They should move on and try to be productive, but that makes too much sense.
ozgirl51226-30, F
@StrictSouthernHOH so in short, you have no ethical problem with the Russians manipulating your election results, whether Trump know of it or not?
windinhishair61-69, M
@StrictSouthernHOH It is illegal for a foreign government to interfere in our elections. Coordinating with a foreign government engaged in interference is a [b]felony[/b]. It is not "completely legal." You've been fed too much Faux News to the point where you believe it.

So I take it if China interfered in our election next year to make sure that the Democratic candidate, say Kamala Harris, was elected instead of Trump, you would have absolutely no problem with something so "completely legal"?
whowasthatmaskedman70-79, M
@StrictSouthernHOH I agree. Collusion isnt a crime. Neither is lying unless its under oath. Or declaring Bankruptcy and sending others broke after skimming the books. or draft dodging. or adultery while your wife is in hospital with your baby. But they do point to a pattern of behaviour. And that pattern says a great deal about the kind of person who would vote for that person as President.
SW-User
@StrictSouthernHOH Oh ,well then that makes everything ok then .

Phew ...good to know
SW-User
@StrictSouthernHOH According to the article it is still an impeachable offense, just saying...
StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
@ozgirl512 Russia manipulating the election results is a separate issue. Even Mueller admitted that although they tried to convince Trump to accept their help he refused. Anyhting they did on on their own is not his fault. I hope you are equally outraged about Hillary paying for the Russian dossier. She is the one candidate we are certain colluded with Russia.
StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
@windinhishair Refusing to coordinate with a foreign government to manipulate a federal election is legal, regardless of how much you wish otherwise.
StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
@whowasthatmaskedman You just described Bill Clinton.
StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
@SW-User You're welcome. :)
windinhishair61-69, M
@StrictSouthernHOH Except Trump didn't refuse to accept information from a foreign government, as Mueller's report documents. And Trump admitted he would gladly commit a felony in the future and accept information from a foreign government. That's a crime if he does so, regardless of how much you wish otherwise.

Face it, you have a "president" who admits he'd love to commit future crimes in the White House, to go along with the ones he has already committed.
StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
@windinhishair Under which law is that a felony? If it were a crime already, why would Pelosi propose a law to make it one?
windinhishair61-69, M
@StrictSouthernHOH Existing campaign finance law makes it illegal to accept anything of value from a foreign government in a campaign. Dirt on opposition candidates clearly falls under that law. The law being considered in Congress is a "duty to report" law that would require a candidate to report solicitation of and/or contacts from foreign governments offering information on another candidate, to the FBI. They are related, but cover two separate issues.

Face it, Trump is a criminal who considers himself above the law.
StrictSouthernHOH46-50, M
@windinhishair Again, if it were illegal why would the Democrats propose a law to make it illegal? Are they incompetent or just wasting more time and taxpayers' money?
SW-User
@StrictSouthernHOH The topic of the article is collusion, and a question asked was, "Is Trump actually trying to get himself impeached"? That should answer the question on if collusion is illegal or not.
windinhishair61-69, M
@StrictSouthernHOH Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, I see. The new law would require [b]reporting[/b] contacts and make it crystal clear that accepting information from foreign governments is a thing of value. Apparently it is necessitated by Trump's pronouncement that he would love to commit the crime of accepting illegal information from foreign governments. The only people incompetent here are Trump, and you.

As incredible as it may seem, there is a difference between [b]committing[/b] an illegal act, and being required to [b]report[/b] an act that could end up being illegal.