Politics should be about compromise

many politicans are driven by dogma these days, a set rules of conservative or liberal values. instead they should compromise and aim to strive policies of both sides.

like build a wall and regulate guns... or ban abortions and co2 emissions...

you get something you want and give up something else.

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AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

I understand that there are some things that the left and the right should compromise on. However, there are fundamentals that I believe should NOT be compromised on. The day a wall is built on the southern border is the day that America ceases to be a symbol for hope.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

We cannot "give the wall to get gun control"
those are 2 different issues that I don't think deserve to be bargaining pawns for each other.

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn it is exactly what bargaining means... both sides give up something that is important to them. thats the only way there can be any progress

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

You missed my point. There are things so crucially important that they should not have to be used as bargaining chips. Why should we have to build a border wall to prevent domestic abusers from buying guns? They're unrelated issues that shouldn't have to be used as pawns. We can have gun control and not have to build a wall. We don't have to have a "give and take" on important, fundamental issues. Especially when we could use the money that would be required to build a wall to apply to some real, positive change.

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

and if your idea of "progress" is just having something happen or passed through the house and senate, then that is not progress.

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn you cant have both... beside that was only an example...

what would you want for a wall ? or what would you give up for strict gun reglementation ?

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

That is not the idea. We don't have to "give up" something to accomplish something else. Because the "liberals" get something doesn't mean the "conservatives" have to get something in return. What happens in congress, in the senate does not have to be balanced out.

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn well you perfctly fit in with politicans that value dogma more then achievements.

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

So, what? you want everything to be "fair"? because a "liberal" policy gets passed a "conservative" one must get passed to be even everything out? That's wrong and very elementary.

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn i want politicans actively be working on a middle ground and solutions. you cannot do that if you stand on a podestal and claim xy is unnegotiable. everything is negotioable

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

we elect officials to fight for the fundamentals that we hold important to us. If we want everyone to lose their backbone in politics what's the point of electing anyone in the first place?@Marceline

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn you have an us vs them attitude. democracies arent supposed to be a dictatorship of whoever wins and election but always should striver to find a middle ground

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

Listen, everyone has an agenda. That's why people get elected. I want this democracy to work just as much as everyone else. But to say that I have to agree for a wall to be built in order for gun control to happen in this nation is ridiculous. The deaths of schoolchildren, mothers, fathers, and citizens by guns are not related to immigration. Dangling this concept of "build a wall and we'll give you gun rights" is juvenile and an oversimplified view of how politics work.

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn it is an example.. how about all wall plans are set aside forever and there will be no more attempts to refulate guns either ? better that way ?

AudreyLynn · 31-35, F

again. You're missing the point. These are unrelated issues and need to be discussed on their merit and not in relation to each other!

Marceline · F

@AudreyLynn yeah.. we seen how well that works. and you dont seem to grasp the concept of what an example is...