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Has Trump Been A Good President?

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Theseus · 46-50, M
IMO, yes. I generally judge presidents on the basis of how faithful they are in keeping specific promises (regardless of whether I may agree or disagree with same), and Trump has been consistently faithful to his even though he has been fought tooth and nail by Washington's cadre of completely useless oligarchs.

That doesn't mean I like the man. I don't.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@Theseus Which promise was most important to you?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Theseus He had three major promises that became slogans that were shouted in unison at every campaign rally by feverish, adoring loyalists. Let's see how he did on his three most important promises:

Build the Wall--no.

Lock Her Up--no.

Drain the Swamp--no.

Looks like an abject failure to me.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
windinhishair..you forgot his new health care in the first 100 days. Two yrs later..nothing. Now he wants to hold everyone hostage until 2020 election.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@PTCdresser57 Yes, among other things that aren't getting done.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@SimplyTracie Which promise was "most important to me" is irrelevant. As I said, I judge presidents on the basis of whether they keep, or at least endeavor to keep, their promises [b]regardless of whether I agree with those promises.[/b]
Theseus · 46-50, M
@windinhishair He promised to stimulate the economy through a tax cut or cuts. He kept that promise to such degree that all of the minority groups he supposedly hates are enjoying the highest employment numbers seen in fifty years.

He promised to reduce American troop involvement in various conflicts around the world. He kept that promise.

He promised to defeat ISIS/Daesh. He kept that promise.

He promised to gut or eliminate Obama's hellish nationalized health "care" scheme. He kept that promise.

A comprehensive list of Trump's accomplishments can be had by anyone utilizing the most basic search skills. Here is one example:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/draft-complete-list-of-president-trumps-accomplishments-in-his-first-100-days/

[quote]Looks like an abject failure to me.[/quote]

Of course it does! Your hatred has clearly clouded your judgement.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Theseus I've seen those lists. Most of them regurgitate drivel like He signed some bills! He made some Executive Orders! He appointed a justice! Doing the things every president does. Those aren't accomplishments--those are requirements of every president. The remainder is almost entirely made up of things that damage the nation. Nothing to be proud of. The fact remains, the three main campaign promises made at every Adoration Event and chanted by fawning supporters in masturbatory glee have not been fulfilled, or anything close to it. He's a failure as a president of the 37%, and a failure as a human being.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@windinhishair As I indicated, your hatred has clearly clouded your judgement. The proof lies in your refusal to accept or even consider the lists you say you've seen. You do not attempt to refute them as any rational person would do, you simply ignore them in a fit of militant ignorance.

Here's another such list (for those who do not allow their hatreds to poison critical analysis):

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

Even AS a thoroughly despicable human being, a point about which we agree, Trump also/consistently paints liberals as the deluded, hate-obsessed, wholly intolerent morons they are!
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Theseus Oh I didn't ignore the lists. You cite a right-wingnut tabloid for proof? lol.
They contain exactly what I said--he signed bills! He made Executive Orders! Something he did is expected to result in such and such. And most of the "accomplishments" are things that damage the nation, like rolling back environmental regulations, pulling out of the Paris Accords, starting trade wars, etc. I know right wingnuts love this stuff and eat if for breakfast, but it does the nation no good and sets us back years if not generations until a Democrat comes in and cleans things up like Obama did following Bush, or Clinton following the first Bush.

You still like to ignore that his three primary promises to the American people--the ones that got him elected--are totally unfulfilled. You, and the morons you support, give him a free pass. He's done little positive in his first couple of years, has no legislative agenda, and will do nothing but bloviate on Twitter and blame others for another two years until he is mercifully removed from office in disgrace.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@windinhishair

[quote]You cite a right-wingnut tabloid for proof? lol. [/quote]

Hint: attacking the source of given information--eh, rather than refuting same--is no way to win an argument. In fact such a gambit suggests that you have no argument. Either the information in the cited source is correct or it is not. Do you dispute the veracity (as to accuracy) of the information at the cited source?

Oh, and as I have stated from the beginning, I don't assay presidential administrations on the basis of whether I like or dislike their policy objectives. I assay them on the [b][u]SOLE[/u][/b] basis of whether they keep their promises.

[quote]You still like to ignore that his three primary promises to the American people--the ones that got him elected--are totally unfulfilled.[/quote]

Those promises require the specific approval of the legislative branch. As such, and given the clear hatred directed at Trump by members of the deep state on both sides of the aisle, there is no possibility that he can keep those promises. Even so, no other president has so steadfastly endeavored to keep them.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Theseus So you admit that the promises that Trump based his entire campaign on were hollow promises with no chance of success? Why did wingnuts fall for them so readily and completely?
Theseus · 46-50, M
@windinhishair [quote]So you admit that the promises that Trump based his entire campaign on were hollow promises with no chance of success? [/quote]

No. I admit that the promises more than likely cannot be kept given the hostility directed at this president. To say the promises were "empty" is a bit premature. To date, Hillary has yet to be investigated about her involvement in the DNC/Fusion GPS paying for a dossier generated by a British/Russian double agent, and the subsequent procurement of FISA warrants against a candidate for president of the United States under wholly false pretenses. The corpulent lady has yet to sing.

As for the wall, there has been some meager progress in its maintenance and construction, so whether this promise, too will be empty remains to be seen.

"The swamp," of course, will never be drained until such time as God, in His infinite mercy, hurls a boxcar-sized asteroid upon the nexus of evil.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Theseus And why has Hillary not been investigated in the last two years? You'd think that unless his promise was hollow, he'd start on Day 1. Oh that's right--right after the election he announced that she wouldn't be investigated and locked up after all. Have fun investigating. Didn't we do an investigation of Benghazi and find nothing? And do it again? And again? And again? And again? And again? And again?

Maintenance of the wall goes on all the time. Almost nothing Trump promised has occurred, and Mexico hasn't paid a peso for it. And never will. Another hollow promise.

And don't even start talking about the massive increase in the Swamp inhabited by Trump appointees who almost always run afoul of ethics laws at their agencies.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
[quote]As I said, I judge presidents on the basis of whether they keep, or at least endeavor to keep, their promises regardless of whether I agree with those promises. [/quote]

Meh, if I believe a President’s policies or promises suck, I wouldn’t support him no matter how many he’s able to keep or accomplish.