@HoraceGreenley I think it's hilarious you're using these arguments. You only know about any of this because of scientific research but when that research contradicts your politics you discard it.
I work with research scientists who study this stuff as a full time job. Years and years. Are they lying or stupid?
@HoraceGreenley I work for a Canadian public research university and I'm vice president of the faculty association. So I've also been responsible for negotiating salaries and ensuring professors have full legal right to research what they want without political interference.
@QuixoticSoul lol I'm humouring to make my point. It's almost impossible for this to be a hoax or for consensus to exist in something that's easy to disprove. Academics are often egotistical primadonnas can't agree on time of day and love proving each other wrong.
@CountScrofula It's an insanely competitive environment where being "disruptive" is the best and fastest way to get ahead. Primadonnas is putting it lightly.
I dunno, I come from a family of scientists and the bitter intrigues seem to be part and parcel of the business. My grandfather's entire career was built on a "fuck you I'll go and do it" moment, when an eminent figure in the field mocked his work. And then they sniped at each other until one of them died.
To think you can get a decades-long worldwide conspiracy of a consensus out of an entire field is lunacy. Some people like to turn to conspiracy thinking when the world becomes inconvenient.
@CountScrofula @QuixoticSoul I have a bachelor's degree in Biology. I work in IT. Years ago I came across a petition online signed by thousands of working scientists denouncing anthropogenic Global Warming. I signed the petition as well as a supporting signatory given my degree. If you has a bachelor's degree in Biology, chemistry or physics you could do that. I could not be a primary signatory however.
@CountScrofula @QuixoticSoul I agree with QS about the competitive nature of science. It's one of the contributing factors to the bias supporting human influence on climate.
@QuixoticSoul That might be the petition, but I am not sure. My BA from BU was a BS but with additional requirements. BU had an unusual program back then.BU did not have a BS program at the time.
@QuixoticSoul I know. The petition I signed was longer than that. I had to list my academic credentials. Then the group that issued the petition checks to see if you earned the credentials. After several weeks this group got back to me by email stating that my credentials were accepted, i.e., my degree program was accepted. The BA program from BU was in fact a BS with additional requirements.
The petition I signed was not not just accept the signatories self-designation. You had to list the school that gave you the degree, the year you earned it and areas of concentration.
The organization would not just take the signers word for it.
