Do you value individual liberty or do you embrace collectivism?

Both? Neither?

We have eroded our individual liberties for a variety of purposes. Asset forfeiture. Warrantless searches. Loss of property and assets to eminent domain. Our privacy is forfeited to big data. We have technologies hoisted upon us without any public dialog. The air, water and vistas we enjoy is up for corporate grabs.

So we have individual liberties. More than most places. But they are getting picked apart like a turkey carcass.

And we have collectivism. We are social mammals. This is naturally who we are. We are tribal. We certainly have tribal politics in America. It's become one of the first things we ascertain about people. Same with religion. And if you don't fit clearly in the tribe, then you're shunned. Sports and the consumption of products another tribe.

We just suck at collectivism and tribalism re fixing actual problems. Don't even want to pay taxes for the common good. If there is a catastrophe then we go all tribe, but day to day, we tend to only help those in the family, church and political tribe.

So. Which one? Meh. We fuck up both.